Nicola Sturgeon vows to start process of second independence referendum

These sources of information don’t come from Holyrood. Nicola Sturgeon cannot control the narrative as she usually does!

And here we are again. The Telegraph.

As a result English workers can expect to keep subsidising spending in the north indefinitely, as was the case before Covid struck.

This is bl**dy insulting. If your intention is to annoy me, its working.

Urmstongran

These sources of information don’t come from Holyrood. Nicola Sturgeon cannot control the narrative as she usually does!

No, they're all from the Telegraph...

Well known responsible source of unbiased news on all things Scottish.

Or maybe not...

But fiscal probity?

There's the £200m spent on ferries yet to be delivered, against the budget of £100m. There's the millions lent to a steel business for a handful of extra jobs, together with a financial guarantee for even more millions. The company is accused of fraud and is tied in with Greensill, also accused of fraud.

Now we hear that the SNP is going to spend £700,000 of taxpayers' money on another publicity campaign for independence.

You can also add in the missing £600k donations for an Indy Ref 2 that went missing and is being investigated by Police Scotland!

But, but... ferries!. But, but.. promoting independence! But, but... other things I don't really understand.

Here's an idea. Subscribe to the National.

Equally biased, but a whole different slant on things.

Now we hear that the SNP is going to spend £700,000 of taxpayers' money on another publicity campaign for independence.

For everyone else...

That's not what it says. It's not what's happening.

But if you're worried about it, best just let us go so you can sleep better at night.

Are you bored now you're home UG, so decided to bait an indy person?

I’m not baiting at all Alegrias. Not bored either. Just reading articles in the on line Telegraph that seem to wind you up? The SNP are not as popular as you think. Many canny Scots dislike their policies!

The SNP are not as popular as you think.

Eh? Have you actually read any of the posts here concerning the popularity of the SNP? Instead of wasting your time on the Telegraph, read the posts on this thread.

Canny Scots indeed...

I will admit that the Telegraph does wind me up with its biased and inaccurate reporting and undying support for the Tory party. I think that's a virtue of mine, don't you?

Views on here, although interesting and valid, are anecdotal and do not fully represent the overall views held by the Scottish electorate.

Tuesday 24th Jan, 14:08.

However much you witter on about how Scotland doesn’t like her, Sturgeon is still the only UK leader with a positive approval score. The SNP still won more votes in an election not quite a year ago, than anybody had won before in Scotland. They’ve still got 80% of the seats available to them in Westminster. So somebody likes them.

Not anecdotal.

Have we got to match point yet? Insult the UK government, 15-0, criticise the SNP, 15 all, bang on about BJ, 30-15, niggle about NS 30-30 etc, etc.
Daily Telegraph or Sunday Post content right or wrong?
Criticising, sorry analysing PM/FM wrongdoings means we’re learning from each other, which is good. There’s so much information on the Internet now that you can find out anything about things that interest you. Sadly, one source isn’t guaranteed to be any more accurate than another.

Oh no, that's going too far.

Criticise our FM, impugn the industry of the working man of Scotland, question our financial probity.

But I'll hear no criticism of The Sunday Post. ????

Alegrias ?
My stepfather would definitely concur.

Alegrias1

Tuesday 24th Jan, 14:08.

However much you witter on about how Scotland doesn’t like her, Sturgeon is still the only UK leader with a positive approval score. The SNP still won more votes in an election not quite a year ago, than anybody had won before in Scotland. They’ve still got 80% of the seats available to them in Westminster. So somebody likes them.

Not anecdotal.

Yes, bless them, if it hadn't been for the SNP we would never have had Margaret Thatcher and that Tory Government!

In case it upsets Mollygo, I'll not mention that your bizarre claim refers to events that happened 43 years ago when most of the current Scottish cabinet were either not born or at primary school.

I'm sure it was nothing to do with anybody voting Tory, not at all.

Does it matter how long ago it was? Without mentioning any other threads, it seems OK on GN to blame things that happened nearly a century ago for current events so just going back to Maggie T’s time should be OK.

Thanks, Mollygo
I thought it was worth a mention!
Not game, set and match just yet.

Aye, the SNP were known as the tartan tories.

However they've reformed.

A bit like ABBA.

Perhaps that’s why the SNP have also given Scots the highest taxes in the UK. A eye-watering 53% combined income and NI tax at the bottom of the higher band compared with 42% in all other parts of the UK.

Source: my stepfather.

Oh we've done taxes on this thread before. Not getting caught that way again...

Do they not pay proper National Insurance in England? Crikey, no wonder the NHS is in a state.

source: Someone who actually paid tax in Scotland

Alegrias1

Aye, the SNP were known as the tartan tories.

However they've reformed.

A bit like ABBA.

A bit like ABBA.

Super Troupers?

‘Gimmee, Gimmee Gimmee’ more like Calli!

Money, money, money?

I have a dream.

The winner takes it all.

Interesting though this discussion is, isn’t it all academic really?

The Queen’s love of Scotland is well known and it’s also widely thought that she is very upset about talk of Scottish independence.

Isn’t it then highly unlikely that the PM would grant Ms. Sturgeon permission to hold another referendum, at least for the foreseeable future?

They could declare Unilateral Independence, JenniferEccles

It's been done before.
I remember it well.

31y old Scottish Finance Secretary Kate Forbes (isn’t she young?) is urging MSPs to back her “bold and ambitious” spending plans for next year in a key vote at Holyrood.

Ms Forbes made the appeal amid concern from opposition parties about the amount of cash the Scottish Government has allocated to local government in its 2022-23 Budget.

MSPs discussed the general principles of tax and spending plans in the Scottish Parliament yesterday.

Scottish Liberal Democrat leader Alex Cole-Hamilton announced his party will vote against the Budget due to a lack of funding for social care and treatments for long Covid.

“Faced with a budget that delivers £371 million in cuts to local government and an unwillingness on the part of the SNP-Green Government to deliver key Scottish Liberal Democrat demands on long Covid and social care, we have no choice but to vote against the Budget at stage one,” he said.

However, the protestations of the opposition are likely to have no impact on the passage of the Bill at the first, or any other stage, of its parliamentary journey, with the SNP and Greens having more than enough votes required to pass the Budget without help from other parties.