Legacy of the fraudulent referendum

but I have to share
No you didn’t have to share.
But there again some countries are known for not having a good sense of humour.

Alegrias1

My good friend, a grandmother, is a retired economist. Born in the subcontinent, lived here for decades, never worn a hijab or any other form of religious dress.

Oh, did I mention? She's a Muslim. Like her husband.

You don't even know when you're being offensive, Urmstongran. Stop trying to squirm out of it.

My daughter's mother is also Muslim and a very successful businesswoman.

But there again some countries are known for not having a good sense of humour.

Haha. That is a good British joke!

MerylStreep

^but I have to share^
No you didn’t have to share.
But there again some countries are known for not having a good sense of humour.

The joke was sent to me by a friend from Newcastle- copied ont he site of a friend from Leeds.

But yes, I didn't have to share, but I wanted to (as for the reality, yes, I know, my dad had one of those, and no, he didn't find it pleasant.).

trisher

Urmstongran

Have you been down the curry mile in Manchester Alegiras?
Not a woman to be seen in those restaurants.
At home - with the kids.
Most don’t speak English. Some do, of course. Grandmothers?
Not so much.

That's very odd. Curry is largely an Indian or Pakistani dish. And while most Pakistanis are Muslim most Indians are Hindu.So it's difficult to see how the Muslim rule applies.
We have a cupls of very nice Lebanese restaurants which always seem to have large family groups in them.

The majority of curry houses in our part of the U.K. are Bangladeshi owned and operated. I think this is a fairly common occurrence.

The joke was sent to me by a friend from Newcastle- copied ont he site of a friend from Leeds

Blaming somebody else for the origins of a not very funny joke does not absolve the sharer.
The internet is too full of things “shared” which are frequently dubious and nearly always not worth the space they occupy.

The Irish border question is nowhere near being sorted. In my opinion, this is the most important part of Brexit negotiations to solve. It can't be of course but the Brexit voters do not seem to be in the least bit concerned or dare I say, interested? How arrogant of us little Englanders to plough ahead ignoring this huge problem.
Please ladies who adore being out of the EU, explain how this will be sorted.
By the way, one of the reasons (of many) I voted to stay in the EU was so that my grandchildren would have the freedom to travel and study without difficulties as their parents did in the 1990s. I feel such a great loss.

"Covid has been an easy scapegoat for economic disruption, but Brexit is biting |

amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/31/covid-easy-scapegoat-economic-disruption-brexit-biting"

The cost of Brexit to the UK economy is estimated at £30 billion per year.

“BORIS JOHNSON will today announce a “Brexit Freedoms Bill” as he urges Brussels to “abandon the punitive and zero-sum approach” it has taken to frustrate Brexit.

The PM will also pledge to use powers available after the UK’s withdrawal to cut away a billion pounds’ worth of European Union-era “red tape”, though details are yet to be provided.

Mr Johnson vowed to move “ever faster” to unshackle Britain, pledging to scrap thousands of EU laws still in place in the UK. The announcements have been timed to coincide with the second anniversary of Britain’s formal departure from the EU, at 11pm on Jan 31 2020. The drive will be seen as an attempt to refocus minds on one of his main feats as Prime Minister – securing a deal that delivered the UK’s EU exit.”

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Good. ✅

Wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of those bills are in place to protect us in some way but are costing Johnson’s rich cronies money.

Cynical MayBee. ?

This, from Stella Braverman MP Attorney General:

“The Brexit Freedoms Bill, announced today, will remove, once and for all, the special status and supremacy of EU law within the UK legal system. It will also make it easier to remove or amend EU law: reflecting the sheer volume of law that needs to be changed, and the underlying lack of democratic legitimacy in the way these came on to the UK statute book. We will work with Parliament on how to frame such a power and ensure its use has the appropriate levels of parliamentary scrutiny.”

I think we can be pretty sure that is the case, Maybee70.

I’ve posted on the wrong thread really, so I will re-post it on here.

LBC Nick Ferrari - right wing journalist.

Asked for people to phone in with the benefits that they are feeling from Brexit.

The programme was on from 7am to 10am.

Not a SINGLE benefit was phoned in.

Brexit isn’t working.

I disagree Greta and MayBee. Many UK laws were already superior. Maternity leave off the top of my head. I could Google more I’m sure. But I can’t be bothered.

Urmstongran

Cynical MayBee. ?

This, from Stella Braverman MP Attorney General:

“The Brexit Freedoms Bill, announced today, will remove, once and for all, the special status and supremacy of EU law within the UK legal system. It will also make it easier to remove or amend EU law: reflecting the sheer volume of law that needs to be changed, and the underlying lack of democratic legitimacy in the way these came on to the UK statute book. We will work with Parliament on how to frame such a power and ensure its use has the appropriate levels of parliamentary scrutiny.”

That is nonsense of course. Someone came on R4 wittering about the EU tampon tax.

That amongst so much was always a total lie and still is.

People believe anything it seems to me.

Urmstongran

Cynical MayBee. ?

This, from Stella Braverman MP Attorney General:

“The Brexit Freedoms Bill, announced today, will remove, once and for all, the special status and supremacy of EU law within the UK legal system. It will also make it easier to remove or amend EU law: reflecting the sheer volume of law that needs to be changed, and the underlying lack of democratic legitimacy in the way these came on to the UK statute book. We will work with Parliament on how to frame such a power and ensure its use has the appropriate levels of parliamentary scrutiny.”

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60191402

Suella.

Not a universally popular measure.

European Union-era red tape that can be removed =
Protections for workers, the environment, animals.

European Union-era red tape that can't be removed =
VAT on energy bills.

I don’t trust Suella as far as I can throw her. I wonder if Dominic Grieve agrees with her? Now, if he had said it I would sit up and take notice. Didn’t she try to defend Johnson recently in one of his attempts to undermine the rule of law

No matter really whether you rate Suella or not. This is going to be a cross party consultation. The ‘ernest’ Keir Starmer will have input. That should reassure the doubters.

It did not specify the provisions in the bill or how it calculated the claim that businesses would save £1bn through the cutting of red tape.

The prime minister said the government's bill would "further unleash the benefits of Brexit and ensure that businesses can spend more of their money investing, innovating and creating jobs".

A source said that a meeting between the Attorney General Suella Braverman and devolved ministers on Saturday was "last-minute, fractious, and cack-handed".

Unleashing. That's what we need, more unleashing of non-existent benefits.

Don't know about you lot, but I'm convinced.

Having considered all previous evidence it is impossible to be reassured when Boris Johnson promises something/anything and adds 'details yet to be provided'.

Being earnest is a good thing.

It's Important to Be Earnest.

Never underestimate its importance

Nothing will come of todays announcements.

Nothing ever does