Lord Ashcroft’s book about Carrie ?

BlueBelle

No she’s not in the least responsible for his actions but she is probably part of the encouragement of his actions or even the spur of some of his actions even just a simple thing like the money spent on their decorations which spawned a lot of hatred do you really believe he would have even bothered to make his bed if he was living alone

I wonder how bad Myra Hindley would have been without the encouragement of her partner they ate off the sane plate and when they met it was foulness waiting to happen same could be said for Fred and rosemary west two like minded people come together whatever their main objective is it is doubled

Carrie appeared embroiled in many of the ‘parties’ if it was work only should she have been there !!!

I would never say she causes the problems but I bet she wears the trousers look at that fight recorded by the neighbour in the early days she appeared very much in charge I don’t think she’s a shrinking violet didn’t she bring some of her
co horts in for jobs at the start it all seems so long ago I ve forgotten the details now

No shes not THE problem but a part of it when a weak man meets a strong woman could go either way make or break

Good post.

Fascinating though. I might have to read the blasted book! Do you reckon it will be cheaper to buy it whole or subscribe to the DM for the duration?

Baggs asks 1) What does she see in him? (Pretty reasonable question and one I've occasionally asked myself when I can be bothered to take a passing interest in Johnson's private life.

I'm sure that the late great Mrs Merton could supply the answer.

Something along the lines of, free luxury holidays in rather nice locations, £200,000 worth of designer decoration, delightful weekend pad in the country, £127,000 worth of free gourmet take away during lockdown, lots of lovely parties at the 2nd most exclusive address in the UK, no worries about energy bills, I imagine...

You know, I keep thinking about how everyone ooohed and aaahed about how she rented her wedding dress...such a practical and economical thing to do. Then I think 'WTAF! She spent £200,000 on decorating a flat

Or she thinks as many women do, it will be different with me. Many of us have fallen into that trap. I imagine Johnson can be superficially charming. He has a reasonable success rate with women.

Evidently, as well being called Carrie Antoinette, she’s also known as Ann Boleyn by some people in Downing Street.

Johnson has treated all his wives/long term sexual partners with contempt. His ‘buyer remorse’ comment suggests his attitude to the current Mrs Johnson is no different. I do wonder though, when she’ll leave him.

But he's gross, Galaxy, fat and flabby. No amount of charm can counteract that.

I’m not keen on the way that the female is so often attacked in many public relationships. It was similar with Cherie Blair and Melanie Trump.

Lord Ashcroft?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

I’ve always had a weird little fantasy/ theory that she is a sort of Mata Hari type spy, or mole.
I also used to have a niggling suspicion that Carrie and Cummings were in it together.

Re his appeal. I can actually get the ‘superficial charm’ thing, and I could also overlook the fat and flab.
But she’s a clever woman, she must have known he was a baddun after the way he treated Marina - it wasn’t exactly in his distant past.
And the fact that his AC seem to dislike him.

Ashcroft is ruthless
Upset him and he will come back at you ten times.

It's worth looking at his background too

Power (or apparent power) attracts.
That's it really.
So much written on the subject.

I don't think holidays etc even come onto it.

Typo
Melania not Melanie. This iPad has a mind of its own!

I too can look beyond the silly fat comments Fanny, thinking of Luciano Pavarotti for example. Though I do find Boris scruffy.
I do not like the way the press and aspiring authors seek to destroy a partnership. There are enough difficulties in a relationship, particularly this one, without setting out to wreck its very being.

Lucca

Why is there a book about her ?!

She has obviously upset Ashcroft!

To be fair plenty of people who are fat have perfectly strong relationships/marriages. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all.

They have things in common. She lost a previous job due to lying I believe. Can’t believe how anyone can fill out a whole book about her, though. He’s the typical mid life crisis man who leaves his wife for a younger one only to find the new one just wants to have babies. In this case lots of them I fear.

Chocolatelovinggran

I don't know about the way their marriage works, but I have wondered how her parents felt when she told them about her new romance, when they were first together. She tells them he is twice her age, twice (?) married, has a number of children, not all with his wife , and is politically at odds with her family (I understand). What did they say? Oh, lovely, darling? Or ??

I think Carrie comes from what might be termed a dysfunctional family too.

I'll say it again.
Ashcroft is vengeful.

Who is the narcissist though? Johnson or Ashcroft?

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Hope that you can read this okay ?

I'm not a psychiatrist so won't comment.

I am no defender of Johnson and his wife may have more influence than she ought to have.

But I will say that Ashcroft does not care whom he throws to the dogs.

I have never liked Ashcroft and I think (from the little I’ve seen, thank you Fanny) that Ashcroft is being extremely misogynistic about Carrie. Not nice!

He's a tax exile, buys up companies, discards them, loses people their livelihoods, buys his way into politics here and overseas and when anyone dares to upset him, he writes a scathing biography about them.

I looked him up when I first saw this thread title Callistemon indeed a nasty piece of work.
I certainly won’t be adding to his bank account, not that I’m particularly interested.