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Keir Starmer rescued by police

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Nandalot Mon 07-Feb-22 19:18:14

Keir Starmer has to be rescued by police after being surrounded by an angry crowd who, misled by Johnson’s Commons statement, claimed he had helped a paedophile escape justice. It just shows how irresponsible, almost Trumpian, Johnson’s comment was.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/07/police-rescue-keir-starmer-after-protesters-surround-him-near-parliament

varian Thu 10-Feb-22 19:35:07

GN has rules, but some folk either don't understand the rules or don't think the rules apply to them. (to quote Theresa May)

Grany Tue 15-Feb-22 16:09:18

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Iam64 Tue 15-Feb-22 17:28:54

It’s even more remarkable that the left peddle the same c**p as fascist sites.

Anniebach Tue 15-Feb-22 17:43:47

Following grany’s reasoning, Corbyn sheltered anti semitism
in the Labour Party

Galaxy Tue 15-Feb-22 17:44:24

And as if they give one jot of care for the victims of Saville.

Iam64 Tue 15-Feb-22 17:44:51

Well annibach, many people concluded that’s exactly what he did

Anniebach Tue 15-Feb-22 17:47:10

Iam seems grany agrees.

JaneJudge Tue 15-Feb-22 17:47:34

Saville abused children who had severe learning disabilities but BJ & Co put them on DNR during covid anyway

Casdon Tue 15-Feb-22 18:25:14

The police are now investigating death threats made against Keir Starmer as a direct result of Johnson’s lies. What a mess.
news.sky.com/story/sir-keir-starmer-confirms-he-has-received-death-threats-following-pms-jimmy-savile-remarks-12541846

varian Tue 15-Feb-22 18:34:30

Johnson is not the lovable bumbling fool he pretends to be he is, as Eddie Mair famously said to his face "a nasty piece of work"

He knew exactly what he was doing when he chose to associate Keir Starmer's name with Jimmy Saville, the vile paedophile who was knighted on the recommendation of a Tory government and spent at least one Christmas with Margaret Thatcher .

MayBee70 Tue 15-Feb-22 19:34:56

I’m beyond furious at the way that Johnson grinned when he was asked about the death threats yesterday. The smirk on his face just, to me said ‘job done’.

Iam64 Tue 15-Feb-22 19:49:17

I’m beyond disgusted about Johnson’s deliberate slur

varian Tue 15-Feb-22 20:20:44

Johnson's behaviour is not for the first time absolutely disgusting.

But will he get away with it ?

He usually does.

Dickens Wed 16-Feb-22 13:08:39

MayBee70

I’m beyond furious at the way that Johnson grinned when he was asked about the death threats yesterday. The smirk on his face just, to me said ‘job done’.

Not to mention that he sneered at MP Paula Sherriff... who appealed to him to stop using provocative (and inflammatory) language like "surrender", "traitor", "betrayal" out of concern for MPs' safety.

He called it "humbug". She later received death threats. He then said he was "sorry for the misunderstanding".

... and now this...

But his dyed in the wool supporters will stick with him, regardless - that's a given. It won't matter what he says or what he does. His offences will either be dismissed, declared unimportant, forgiven or - in some instances - even approved. Even the people he insults will stick with him. As with Trump - remember that woman with the MAGA cap and red T shirt bearing the slogan "you can grab my p*ssy any time Mr President" (other women have been seen wearing them, too).

Johnson has insulted "blue collar" workers ("likely to be drunk", "lazy" etc) - but they still vote for him.

That's where we're at. And I personally have no hope for the future... we've slipped into some kind of parallel universe where integrity matters not one jot - to those who lead and to the led. As long as Johnson and Trump disparage and denigrate the same people as their supporters, they'll stay faithful to them.

Kali2 Wed 16-Feb-22 16:46:04

varian

Johnson's behaviour is not for the first time absolutely disgusting.

But will he get away with it ?

He usually does.

Watching him laugh and sneer as he was asked about it- was truly sickening.

Pammie1 Wed 16-Feb-22 16:54:58

Has Boris even realised the hypocrisy of the slur, given that it was the support of the conservative government of the time that enabled Savile to secure the posts which gave him the opportunities for a lot of the sickening abuse he carried out.

varian Wed 16-Feb-22 17:54:08

Not only a knighthood, but the ultimate accolade- an invitation to spend Christmas with Margaret Thatcher

Dickens Thu 17-Feb-22 13:06:07

varian

Not only a knighthood, but the ultimate accolade- an invitation to spend Christmas with Margaret Thatcher

To be fair though, she couldn't have known then what we know now.

... but that only makes the accusation against Starmer even more hypocritical...

MayBee70 Thu 17-Feb-22 13:54:24

Just had the most patronising reply from my MP re what Johnson said about Keir. Said the PM had clarified what he had said, implied that Keir’s apology for failings by the system were an admission of guilt on his part. Gave me links assuming I didn’t know what had actually happened at the time. And, to add insult to injury said she had had ‘the same treatment outside parliament’ (as if anyone would even know who she was!). Of course, Johnson has just promoted her so she’s not going to criticise him is she. I’m sick of having a government that takes us all for fools.

Dickens Thu 17-Feb-22 19:39:35

MayBee70

Just had the most patronising reply from my MP re what Johnson said about Keir. Said the PM had clarified what he had said, implied that Keir’s apology for failings by the system were an admission of guilt on his part. Gave me links assuming I didn’t know what had actually happened at the time. And, to add insult to injury said she had had ‘the same treatment outside parliament’ (as if anyone would even know who she was!). Of course, Johnson has just promoted her so she’s not going to criticise him is she. I’m sick of having a government that takes us all for fools.

Depressing isn't it?

I believe Johnson knows quite well that the Savile affair is an emotive one, and is fully aware of Starmer's position at the time. Therefore there's only one way to construe his comment and he knew full well the effect it would have. And I personally think it's one of the most despicable things he's ever done.

My own Conservative MP - I wrote to him - has been more objective. He's an older man whom I quite like, even though I don't vote Tory, because he's very dedicated to local affairs and represents our community well. I guess he's what you might call 'old-school' Conservative. He thought Johnson was "better than that" and that the comment was "not in the spirit of good debate".

Discrediting your opponent is one thing, but to use the abuse of young people - children some of them - as a political tool to do it, is contemptuous. Especially given the fact that he himself is on record saying that police investigations into historic child abuse is a "waste of money" - money "spaffed up the wall". Even the victims of the abuse were angry at his comment. I mean, really, just how low can he sink?

And now Starmer has received death threats. And when questioned about them, Johnson simply said "I’ve said more than enough about that issue. Thank you” and walked away. It's alleged that Tommy Robinson has been sharing the comments with his far-right supporters.

Bearing in mind what happened to David Amess and Jo Cox I really believe that Boris Johnson has absolutely no shame and absolutely no integrity whatsoever. Frankly, he's a disgrace.

If your MP has had the "same treatment" as Starmer, then I hope she's reported it, and that Boris Johnson is more sympathetic than he was when a similar complaint was made by a female member of the Opposition when she asked that the language in Parliament be less confrontational and less inflammatory - to which his response was... "humbug".

How any decent-minded individual can continue to sing his praises just baffles me.

MayBee70 Thu 17-Feb-22 20:58:04

Johnson not only said he’d said enough about the affair but grinned when he said it.

Iam64 Thu 17-Feb-22 20:59:40

In the early 1080s, Sir Robert Armstrong, a very senior civil servant warned Thatcher against giving Saville a knighthood.
The stories about Saville sexually assaulting teenagers, 12 and 13 year olds when he was cxx DJ in Manchester clubs were well known in
The mid 1960’s