Has the Tory Governement misread the population

I think most people would, but there is a sizeable number of the Ukip types who are anti any sort of immigration - goodness knows why , the thought of living in a boring monocultural country fills me with dread.

I don’t even understand what the JS is actually saying. So I’ll just repeat what I said in another thread .Pritti Patel is a disgrace.

A few people seem to have been allowed in having originally been turned away. Perhaps someone more senior has to vet applications and is not always available to do so. Hopefully
any unnecessary bureaucracy will be sorted out as soon as possible

“Hopefully “and “as soon as possible”. We Should not be hearing those words, just bloody get it done, it’s shameful.

Yes and yes.

harold

A few people seem to have been allowed in having originally been turned away. Perhaps someone more senior has to vet applications and is not always available to do so. Hopefully
any unnecessary bureaucracy will be sorted out as soon as possible

Most other European countries are letting fleeing Ukranians in with no need for visas (i.e an 'application' to enter the country)

The story all over twitter this morning was of the mother with small children who made it to Calais only to be refused passage to the UK and told she would have to go to Paris to get a visa...
If the UK is going to insist on visas they might at least have people in place at the Channel ports and airports to deal with them.

What a niggardly country we are...

What a niggardly country we are...
I don't think we are - the British people have responded generously and would so even more if we had the chance.

Lucca

“Hopefully “and “as soon as possible”. We Should not be hearing those words, just bloody get it done, it’s shameful.

Yes.

This is the letter I( have written to mu Tory MP-

"The tragic situation in Ukraine is leading to a huge number of Ukrainians seeking refuge in other countries and their numbers will inevitably increase.

To their credit the European Union have welcomed all Ukrainian refugees who have been offered the chance to stay in any EU country, without having to apply for visas, for up to three years.

To our shame, the UK government is turning its back of the plight of the Ukrainians, demanding visas and only offering safe haven to a very limited number of relatives of UK residents.

Please, please demand that our government does better and is at least as generous and welcoming as all of our erstwhile partners in the European Union."

Is it something to do with UK being no longer in the Schengen area after leaving the EU?

The United Kingdom was never a member of the Schengen Agreement,

I don't know anyone who wouldn't want to support these poor people and welcome them here with open arms.

I wish it was us at the docks and train stations today walking up to people giving them food, prams and a warm welcome.

Anyone who doesn't want this should hope they and their own families never find themselves desperate for sanctuary and peace.

I was reading today about Schengen - those countries can accept immigrants without a visa so the process is much simpler.
I think that's right.

varian

This is the letter I( have written to mu Tory MP-

"The tragic situation in Ukraine is leading to a huge number of Ukrainians seeking refuge in other countries and their numbers will inevitably increase.

To their credit the European Union have welcomed all Ukrainian refugees who have been offered the chance to stay in any EU country, without having to apply for visas, for up to three years.

To our shame, the UK government is turning its back of the plight of the Ukrainians, demanding visas and only offering safe haven to a very limited number of relatives of UK residents.

Please, please demand that our government does better and is at least as generous and welcoming as all of our erstwhile partners in the European Union."

May I use it Varian? I can't believe it will have any affect on my MP but he needs telling.

Marmite32

I was reading today about Schengen - those countries can accept immigrants without a visa so the process is much simpler.
I think that's right.

From one another, I would have thought Marmite but I would have thought that wouldn't apply to Ukraine. As I understand it the continental European contries just wave the need for them.

I think this is the case but happy to here more detail.

Ahhh!!! here hear.

By all means *DaisyAnne" but don't expect a proper reply.

I have had a reiteration of the Pritti Patel version of a compassionate response - well short of everything the EU countries, eg Ireland are offering.

MaizieD

harold

A few people seem to have been allowed in having originally been turned away. Perhaps someone more senior has to vet applications and is not always available to do so. Hopefully
any unnecessary bureaucracy will be sorted out as soon as possible

Most other European countries are letting fleeing Ukranians in with no need for visas (i.e an 'application' to enter the country)

The story all over twitter this morning was of the mother with small children who made it to Calais only to be refused passage to the UK and told she would have to go to Paris to get a visa...
If the UK is going to insist on visas they might at least have people in place at the Channel ports and airports to deal with them.

What a niggardly country we are...

This government moves from flat-footed to totally incompetent when it comes to any sort of administration or in-depth care and monitoring. We've seen it with the drop in numbers in the Civil Service and also how they view the work of the scientists who made the vaccine.

(I enjoyed seeing the word "niggardly" make an appearance.)

varian

By all means *DaisyAnne" but don't expect a proper reply.

I have had a reiteration of the Pritti Patel version of a compassionate response - well short of everything the EU countries, eg Ireland are offering.

That's gone varian. I will report back on any miracles.

I wrote to my MP about this days ago. He's not replied, but then he never does. I hope you all have more success.

The UK so called Government should hang their heads in shame. How can they look at themselves in the mirror? What a disgrace. I hope tomorrow in Parliament all the other parties and Tory backbenchers create an almighty fuss. I’m ashamed.

I was being sarcastic - sorry it didn't work!
And I did not know that people of other nationalities were able to be members of the House of Lords!?

Oldbat1

The UK so called Government should hang their heads in shame. How can they look at themselves in the mirror? What a disgrace. I hope tomorrow in Parliament all the other parties and Tory backbenchers create an almighty fuss. I’m ashamed.

Priti Patel was on the news and is proud of herself because the UK Government is the first in the world to set up a scheme like this.
Asked if it was acceptable that around 1 per cent of submitted applications had been granted in the first 48 hours of the visa scheme, she said: “Let’s be clear, this is the first scheme in the world that’s up and running in this short period of time.
according to the Home Office “around 50” visas have been allocated to Ukrainians seeking to move to the UK under the Ukraine Family Scheme as of 10am on Sunday.

I feel so proud ........
?

The government seem to equate all "immigrants" with would be terrorists. On the whole I think the public can see that refugees from Ukraine are looking for a safe sanctuary for the duration, but will mostly want to go home as soon as it is safe to do so. Even those with family here will probably have homes and jobs that they would prefer to return to.