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Has the Tory Governement misread the population

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DaisyAnne Sun 06-Mar-22 15:56:25

The Justice Secretary told the BBC’s Sunday Morning programme: “If we just open the door, not only will we not benefit the people that we need to, the genuine refugees, but I think we undermine the popular support for this very thing, so I don’t think that’s the right thing to do. We need to make sure that we’re acting for those that need our support.” [Source: Northern Echo]

This appears to have come on the back of France accusing the UK of ‘lack of humanity’ after 150 Ukraine refugees turned away at Calais [Source: Independant]

I know we have a tranche of the zenophobic far-right in this country but surely we would want to support these people?

Hetty58 Sun 06-Mar-22 23:44:07

I'm ashamed to be British - so often lately.

Freya5 Mon 07-Mar-22 08:12:41

DaisyAnne

^The Justice Secretary told the BBC’s Sunday Morning programme: “If we just open the door, not only will we not benefit the people that we need to, the genuine refugees, but I think we undermine the popular support for this very thing, so I don’t think that’s the right thing to do. We need to make sure that we’re acting for those that need our support.”^ [Source: Northern Echo]

This appears to have come on the back of France accusing the UK of ‘lack of humanity’ after 150 Ukraine refugees turned away at Calais [Source: Independant]

I know we have a tranche of the zenophobic far-right in this country but surely we would want to support these people?

I think there are pockets of right wingers in any country you go to, look what happened on Ukraine border. Not sure that introducing a term equated with finance means. You know that the majority of people in this country would welcome these refugees,, and I have not seen reports of anyone not agreeing to let people in, t I Really don’t trust anything that comes from France, they will stir things up with us whenever they can. As for the Independant, owned by Lebedev I see.

Freya5 Mon 07-Mar-22 08:14:59

Callistemon21

^What a niggardly country we are...^
I don't think we are - the British people have responded generously and would so even more if we had the chance.

Well said.

volver Mon 07-Mar-22 08:15:54

Oh, the irony.

DaisyAnne Mon 07-Mar-22 08:30:12

Freya5

DaisyAnne

The Justice Secretary told the BBC’s Sunday Morning programme: “If we just open the door, not only will we not benefit the people that we need to, the genuine refugees, but I think we undermine the popular support for this very thing, so I don’t think that’s the right thing to do. We need to make sure that we’re acting for those that need our support.” [Source: Northern Echo]

This appears to have come on the back of France accusing the UK of ‘lack of humanity’ after 150 Ukraine refugees turned away at Calais [Source: Independant]

I know we have a tranche of the zenophobic far-right in this country but surely we would want to support these people?

I think there are pockets of right wingers in any country you go to, look what happened on Ukraine border. Not sure that introducing a term equated with finance means. You know that the majority of people in this country would welcome these refugees,, and I have not seen reports of anyone not agreeing to let people in, t I Really don’t trust anything that comes from France, they will stir things up with us whenever they can. As for the Independant, owned by Lebedev I see.

I don't understand much of your post, Freya. What term equated with finance? What is the problem?

Having read the post several times, I can only imagine that you are saying you disagree with my post and agree with Patel. If that is what you are saying I believe you are one of a minority, thankfully. It is a generally loud and outspoken, and sometimes threatening minority, but thankfully still comparatively small. But in this country, thankfully, minority views are allowed.

Lucca Mon 07-Mar-22 08:34:23

Hetty58

I'm ashamed to be British - so often lately.

I’m ashamed of our government not us as a population

paddyann54 Mon 07-Mar-22 09:05:22

ThePM's sister added her take on our inaction.she says we cant take in women and children they'll be a drain on us because " a lot of them will be widowed" All heart the tories .The biggest "drain" on the UK IS the tories .
Atleast I can say I've never voted for them .

volver Mon 07-Mar-22 09:23:04

When I worked as a Project Manager I often had to tell people the difference between a plan and a wish list. Guess which this is.

Lucca Mon 07-Mar-22 09:31:26

I know I’m in a bad place therefore bad mood but that is just meaningless waffle….

Dinahmo Mon 07-Mar-22 18:27:11

Callistemon21

^What a niggardly country we are...^
I don't think we are - the British people have responded generously and would so even more if we had the chance.

There's a big difference between the people of the country and the govt. It's a pity that the latter don't think like the former.

varian Mon 07-Mar-22 18:30:24

The huge difference between the Russian government and the Russian people is reflected here in the gap between the UK government and the majority of the people who never voted for them.

Dinahmo Mon 07-Mar-22 18:34:56

^Priti Patel was on the news and is proud of herself because the UK Government is the first in the world to set up a scheme like this.
Asked if it was acceptable that around 1 per cent of submitted applications had been granted in the first 48 hours of the visa scheme, she said: “Let’s be clear, this is the first scheme in the world that’s up and running in this short period of time.
according to the Home Office “around 50” visas have been allocated to Ukrainians seeking to move to the UK under the Ukraine Family Scheme as of 10am on Sunday.^

Why does this govt feel constrained to tell us that every thing do is done before anybody else in the world?

Lucca Mon 07-Mar-22 18:36:30

Grrrrrr that woman.

Luckygirl3 Mon 07-Mar-22 18:44:40

I cannot imagine what it must be like to flee a war and be turned away from a safe haven.

Callistemon21 Mon 07-Mar-22 19:06:29

Lucca

Grrrrrr that woman.

I've just emailed my MP to have a (civilised) rant about her.