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Absolute chaos!

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CvD66 Wed 09-Mar-22 18:07:54

From tomorrow a visa centre for Ukrainian refugees will be set up in Lille. It will be a ‘pop-up’. It will not offer appointments or walk-in access for those seeking to come to UK. The most vulnerable cases in Calais will be taken there for biometrics checks. The Home Office will NOT publicise its location and capacity will be small.
Anyone turning up at Calais will be told to go to Paris or Brussels to fill out the correct forms - if you can get an appointment
In Brussels, Ukrainians seeking UK visas will find the embassy has outsourced this work to a private company (a mate of a Tory MP??) and it closes at 3pm. First find it - it is at the back of the station!
Families with UK visa biometrics checks done in Rzeszów (Poland) are being told to travel 200 miles to Warsaw to collect their visas stamp for their passport.
Meanwhile Patel is contacting the Irish to oppose their refugee policy with the abject fear that some of those Ukranian refugees might make it to UK.
All this being allegedly to stop Russian terrorists entering UK. Don’t worry - such terrorists don’t need visas - they come in as tourists and do their worse - evidence Salisbury poisoning.
In the words of James O’Brien (LBC): you - the UK - voted for this and this government intends to make it as difficult as possible for ANY refugees to enter UK!

Dinahmo Wed 09-Mar-22 18:11:09

I do hope that those who voted for Brexit feel a small amount of remorse for what is happening. Obviously not about the war but for the way i which are govt are dealing with the Ukranian refugees who want to come to the UK.

dragonfly46 Wed 09-Mar-22 18:15:39

I feel ashamed to be British!

Casdon Wed 09-Mar-22 18:18:40

There’s no excuse. Those poor people are fleeing for their lives. Even the most ardent Tory supporter must surely see how inhumane our bureaucratic system is. I feel ashamed too.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 09-Mar-22 18:23:17

I am not ashamed to be British, I am ashamed of the way the current Government is performing regarding Ukrainian and other refugees.

varian Wed 09-Mar-22 18:26:03

Apparently the location of this popup centre at Lille is not to be disclosed!!

Pantglas2 Wed 09-Mar-22 18:33:44

The incompetence in dealing with asylum seekers by the Tories in London and Labour in Cardiff is stunning - we heard on the Welsh news yesterday that there are Syrians still in hotels since arriving years ago!

maddyone Wed 09-Mar-22 18:34:46

GrannyGravy13

I am not ashamed to be British, I am ashamed of the way the current Government is performing regarding Ukrainian and other refugees.

Me too GrannyGravy.

Casdon Wed 09-Mar-22 18:42:34

And yet Pantglas2 the almost unthinkable has happened today, Andrew RT Davies has broken ranks with the Government and supported the Welsh Government’s approach to Ukrainian refugees. He virtually never criticises Boris and Co.. I nearly choked on my dinner.

GagaJo Wed 09-Mar-22 18:49:19

HOW can they put feathering their friends nests over the literal lives of people fleeing war?

But then, they didn't care about dying British people at peak covid, so...

dragonfly46 Wed 09-Mar-22 18:52:46

I am ashamed that the British people voted this evil government in and also voted for Brexit which is causing problems getting donated goods to the Ukraine.
We need to take responsibility even if you personally did not vote for the above!

Daisymae Wed 09-Mar-22 18:55:12

Poland has opened their border to over a million refugees. It is really shaming that the government can't get in place a system of emergency visas to help people who have gone through so much. The news tonight showed a 92 year old queueing with her 70 year old daughter to try to get an appointment for a visa, she has a son in the UK. Heaven knows what they have been through to get there only to be met by a barrage of red tape. Where is the humanity??

annodomini Wed 09-Mar-22 19:00:28

In the 1970s didn't we welcome with open arms and hearts Asian refugees from Uganda? And, among those refugees wasn't there a certain couple by the name of Patel who later produced a daughter, named Pritti?
Talk about closing the door after you've made your entry.

Lucca Wed 09-Mar-22 19:00:36

Where are the Tory GNs ? I’d honestly be interested to hear if they agree with government’s stance on this.

Lucca Wed 09-Mar-22 19:02:06

And I say Tory not as a dig, in my book this is no time for political argy bargy, I just mean Conservative voting GNs

Pantglas2 Wed 09-Mar-22 19:03:10

Talk is cheap Casdon - whether it’s in London or Cardiff!

Let’s see some efficiency from both administrations on this batch of refugees and not be hearing that they’re still in hotels in a few years time!

mokryna Wed 09-Mar-22 19:03:33

Especially if you think back to a few months ago when those that had money, would have been given a golden visa.

Casdon Wed 09-Mar-22 19:12:39

That won’t apply with this scheme as I understand it Pantglas2, the Ukrainians are only allowed in to stay with an immediate family member. I haven’t seen anything about them being housed in separate accommodation, or being allowed to enter the UK if sponsored by a non family member. I might have missed that though, I don’t know if anybody else knows more?

M0nica Wed 09-Mar-22 19:16:23

Like others , it makes me ashamed to be British. Making fefugees shuttle back and forth between Calais Paris and Brussels. These are refugees. Many will be short of money or unable to access funds in Ukrainian banks.

Priti Patel is a shame and embarrassment. Who runs the Home office, her or her civil servants? She should just tell her minions to get offices running eficiently and smoothly within two days, no shuttling, no queueing for hours in the bitter cold, hot drinks and snacks while they wait and a decision within 24 hours. That or the sack

GrannyGravy13 Wed 09-Mar-22 19:18:50

Lucca

And I say Tory not as a dig, in my book this is no time for political argy bargy, I just mean Conservative voting GNs

Lucca I voted Conservative, I have already posted on this thread that I am ashamed of the way this Government is performing regarding all refugees.

MaizieD Wed 09-Mar-22 19:22:50

annodomini

In the 1970s didn't we welcome with open arms and hearts Asian refugees from Uganda? And, among those refugees wasn't there a certain couple by the name of Patel who later produced a daughter, named Pritti?
Talk about closing the door after you've made your entry.

I have to keep repeating this, don't I?

Patel's parents were NOT among those Asians thrown out by Amin in 1972.

They came to the UK in the 1960s. Patel wasn't born until 1972. She has no experience whatsoever of being a refugee and neither did her parents. Which could explain her total lack of empathy...

Mind you, most of the British seem to be able to emphasise...

CvD66 Wed 09-Mar-22 19:24:54

annodomini There are claims Patel's parents were NOT refugees but who would leave the lovely, propersous life in sunny Uganda unless you perceived the threat of Idi Amin. Sad to also see her Dad stood as a UKIP candidate!?!

M0nica Wed 09-Mar-22 19:30:01

MaizieD what a shockingly racist taunt your last two paras are.

MaizieD Wed 09-Mar-22 19:30:43

Idi Amin wasn't even President when they left, CvD66. He became president in, I think 1971.

Granted that there had been 'tensions' before that, but Patel's parents would have made an orderly exit. No 'fleeing'.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 09-Mar-22 19:31:30

Remember when we were told by the Brexit loons that we will get rid of all bureaucracy?

The Home Office and it’s minister is not fit for purpose.