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Joe Biden won’t. Boris Johnson won’t. Ben Wallace won’t. Nor will, as far as we know, every other leader of a Nato member country. However, it is clear that Nicola Sturgeon just might.
Might do what, you ask? Consider backing a Nato no-fly zone over Ukraine, that’s what. Even if such an action risked a major escalation of the West’s dispute with a nuclear-tipped Russia.
The First Minister thinks that having warplanes, including British ones, taking on, and possibly shooting down, Vladimir Putin’s planes is worth “serious consideration”.
It’s a truly astonishing suggestion that was being described by enemies and one-time supporters alike as another piece of grandstanding by someone who appears to be desperately seeking a niche for herself on the international stage.
Never let the truth get in the way of a good Gransnet OP story! ?
Ukraine gave up their nucleur weapons and look what’s happened.
volver
Oh good grief, such obvious tactics ?
"Shortbread Senate" is verging on xenophobia.
Still good at the "Copy and Paste" I see Urmstongran
Is Putin across the Atlantic? Has Russia moved then Yammy?
Which sea do you think the Baltic runs into the Pacific?
Turkey has already blocked the Dardanelles to Russian war ships so they can't exist into the Med.
Nicola Sturgeon can say she might put in place a No fly zone over Ukraine because she will never have the power to have to do it.
Which sea do you think the Baltic runs into the Pacific?
Is this a trick question?
Are you talking about the direct route (as the crow flies) or the long way round, or the scenic route as the satnav says?
Blossoming
I am shocked that a woman is telling another woman to “Shut up, woman”, on the day after International Women’s Day. Long live the patriarchy.
Saying measures should be considered is not the same as advocating their immediate adoption.
Indeed it's not, is it Blossoming. It is quite likely that more countries will use these measures as a "red line" against the threat of the use of chemical weapons. This would be the next step in Putin's "play book" if he follows his normal pattern.
But of course, rather than find out the facts, it's much better to tear into another woman. Sadly, I don't think that is likely to stop at any time soon.
Is Putin across the Atlantic?
Yes
Has Russia moved then Yammy?
No
Ms Sturgeon's comment was actually quite frightening. I'm glad she is not in charge of defence. What surprised me is she is not a stupid woman, but I really question her wisdom here. If we have a no- fly zone over Ukraine, which Russia then ignores. We are all in this war. The only way to protect a no- fly zone is with military intervention. Putin has been testing UK reaction times for years, why do you think Russian fighter jets have been flying over here every so often? Sadly, our First Minister seems not to have noticed.
If a man said this( and many do) would you say - “shut up man?”?
Plenty of Ukrainians want a no fly zone - let’s all tell them to shut up.
Thank goodness we have Liz Truss.
Lucca
Slightly different slant to the OP
Thank you Lucca!
It really annoys me, when posters read threads like this, without doing any research of their own, rush in and accept the OP, as the whole truth and nothing but the truth!
Because it has been posted on Gransnet, doesn't mean it is totally accurate!
As for Liz Truss, that woman terrifies me! What a lightweight!
So what would a heavy weight be like? Someone who slammed their first on the table and told those pesky Ruskies to get back in their box else the full force of the British armed forces would be unleashed upon them? Or perhaps got together for a cosy chat over a COT? Which. country in NATO has someone more competent? America?!!
Good thinking Nicola , we’ll have ‘No Flying Zone Over Ukraine’ then when Russians attack Faselane you’ll get independence but unfortunately there will be nothing to be independent for . What a plonker .
Ug. Please read other posts occasionally. Eg Marydoll,s
Read what NS actually said
Reading this, I hardly think "Shortbread Senate is bordering on xenophobia" as mentioned above. Where is the sense of humour. Welsh and Irish people have always had fun poked at them.
Thank you fairfraise ? SOH is often missing if it involves the SNP I’ve noticed!
NS runs an administration with a population not a whole lot less to Greater Manchester. The woman has delusions of grandeur.....
So she wants to get rid of our nuclear weapons and then provoke Russia?? ?
07:30Urmstongran
Good thinking Nicola , we’ll have ‘No Flying Zone Over Ukraine’ then when Russians attack Faselane you’ll get independence but unfortunately there will be nothing to be independent for . What a plonker .
? A Scottish Plonker she certainly is.
Jaberwok
So what would a heavy weight be like? Someone who slammed their first on the table and told those pesky Ruskies to get back in their box else the full force of the British armed forces would be unleashed upon them? Or perhaps got together for a cosy chat over a COT? Which. country in NATO has someone more competent? America?!!
I have no confidence her, it is embarrassing to watch her.
Unfortunately, there is no-one to take her place. There is a distinct lack of statespersons (in the true definition of the word) in this incompetent government.
Jaberwork, I am speaking about her ability as a politician and diplomat. At no point did I advocate that she slams her fist on the table etc. Please do not tell me what I think about the situation in Ukraine and stop making assumptions about my views.
This exactly what I posted about earlier. Posters rush in, before actually thinking, before they post.
Still the inaccuracies continue to be posted, despite posters being told that the OP is not accurate.
Does no-one actually read, before posting?
As for Shortbread Senate, it may not exactly be xenophobic, but it is offensive.
I have a friend who is an MSP, not SNP by the way, it is insulting and disrespectful to use that term. There are a lot of talented members of the Scottish Parliament, who are trying their utmost to do their best for the Scottish people.
What saddens me are obvious anti Scottish vibes on here, stirred up yet again by the the same poster.
I agree with you about Liz Truss Marydoll.
Fortunately we have Ben Wallace ...
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I’m not anti Scottish. Marydoll now it’s your turn interpreting MY posts‼️
(Anti-SNP ... now there’s a thought though).
I don't think they are anti Scottish vibes. Just people saying what they think.
Personally Nicola, I wouldn't have worn a red outfit when making that announcement, or maybe it was intentional?
Reuters, Mar 11 A source hiding behind the fake name Urmstongran has posted evidence on social media that Scotland’ s first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, was responsible for the outbreak of the Second World War: “I heard a drunk, mentally unstable man in a pub car park shout that Sturgeon fabricated the ‘peace in our time’ letter brandished by Chamberlain on his return from the Munich peace conference,” posted UG, “I have no reason to disbelieve this.”
The anonymous poster went on to write “If this is subsequently proven untrue I will just ignore it and swivel to the accusation that the very existence of a mentally unstable drunk man in Scotland shows Sturgeon’s lack of judgement over funding of mental health services and alcohol pricing. She’s the woman in charge, she is responsible for everything. God knows what would happen to these poor incompetent people if we English were gracious enough to grant Scotland its independence, we really need to look after them for their own good.”
Speculation continues to mount that Sturgeon has been personally responsible for every disaster to hit humankind. Anti-Sturgeon campaigners have pointed out that Ms Sturgeon is yet to deny any involvement in the crucifixion of Christ, and also that scientists have not yet proven she did not personally kill all the dinosaurs in the Cretaceous-Tertiary Mass Extinction.
Urmstongran was contacted for comment but was unfortunately too busy sticking pins into a small doll.
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