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What a surprise, Harry’s not coming.

(183 Posts)
maddyone Fri 11-Mar-22 23:37:19

So it seems that Prince Harry has decided to not attend his grandfather’s memorial service on 29th March at Westminster Abbey. I’m not surprised, are you?

maddyone Sun 13-Mar-22 10:51:53

Please tell me volverwhere I have lied in my post. Please don’t tell that you find calling others ‘witches’ is acceptable.

maddyone Sun 13-Mar-22 10:59:08

I will repeat,
what I don’t like is having things attributed to me that I have not said

I have not said I hate anyone
I have not said anyone resembles a witch
I have not denigrated Harry anywhere, I have merely tried to discuss how his behaviour may have affected his family
I have said how I might feel under those circumstances
I have not lied
And I not insulted anyone by calling them ‘haters’
I have not called Harry a coward

I do NOT hate Harry. I have discussed his behaviour only.

volver Sun 13-Mar-22 10:59:42

maddyone. Not every poster lies about Meghan and Harry. I'm sure you haven't, I don't think that's what you are like.

But this whole thread and all the others are riven with lies, supposition and comments worthy of a 2 year old child. Is calling others "witches " acceptable?

Maybe not.

Is calling someone a coward and a liar and worse acceptable? I calling his wife a gold digger and a manipulator and worse acceptable?

Definitely not.

People are letting their own life experiences govern their attitudes to others and they are letting it run away with them.

Namsnanny Sun 13-Mar-22 11:02:03

maddyone

Well I started the thread. I don’t care whether Harry attends his grandfather’s memorial or not, but maybe his grandmother would like him there. From my perspective the memorial will be better without Harry as the press would probably focus on him.
Also of interest is that it’s been reported that the Queen isn’t going to attend the Commonwealth service, which I believe is near to her heart. I think she’ll be very disappointed about that.
I speak as as neither a royalist nor a republican. I have a foot in both camps as I’ve said before, but these stories are in the news, and I and others have every right to be interested, to comment, and to discuss, or to just scroll on by.

I quite agree maddyone with each of your points.
I scroll by a lot of threads, not always because I disagree with them just because...

maddyone Sun 13-Mar-22 11:08:41

Thank you volver. With me, what you see is what you get. I’m fairly straight and to the point. I appreciate your comments.

Namsnanny thank you for your comment and agreeing with my points. I do generally try to discuss things rationally and without undue emotion. I try to focus on the facts and I normally state if it’s just my opinion.

Namsnanny Sun 13-Mar-22 11:09:48

BTW, I commented on this thread because it was started by maddyone, whose pov I generally concur with.

Anniebach Sun 13-Mar-22 11:10:01

Maddyone I will disagree with you on just one thing, my younger daughter couldn’t have children, 14 failed IVF and five miscarriages. She does not have the understanding of the deep
love a mother has for her children or a grandmother for her
grandchildren, as I don’t know what it is to not have children and grandchildren. We have never experienced these.

Namsnanny Sun 13-Mar-22 11:13:39

X posts. I like that there is no hidden (not so hidden on H&M?) agenda in your comments maddyone and yes you do come across as a balanced poster.?

hollysteers Sun 13-Mar-22 11:23:52

It seems Harry has cast duty aside along with his royal role, a position the Queen would never understand.
As the Queen is unable to attend the Commonwealth service, which is something so important to her through mobility issues, could a wheelchair not be provided? I don’t know the logistics of this, but I’m sure something could be arranged and the respect for her would increase, great as it is already.

Anniebach Sun 13-Mar-22 11:32:44

Getting in out of a car from a wheelchair is definitely not comfortable

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 13-Mar-22 11:32:53

Would she want to be seen in a wheelchair, acknowledge her frailty and lose her dignity?

Purplepixie Sun 13-Mar-22 11:33:55

I am really disappointed.

volver Sun 13-Mar-22 11:34:48

Germanshepherdsmum

Would she want to be seen in a wheelchair, acknowledge her frailty and lose her dignity?

Do people in wheelchairs not have dignity?

What next....

Galaxy Sun 13-Mar-22 11:37:03

Crikey maddy could you have been any more patronising in your post to me. People have different values and organise their families in different ways. I know people find it very difficult to understand.

maddyone Sun 13-Mar-22 11:39:08

I’m sorry Galaxy. Maybe I was patronising, I apologise.

maddyone Sun 13-Mar-22 11:40:34

In my defence I thought you were saying that relationships with cousins are unimportant. But anyway, I apologise.

maddyone Sun 13-Mar-22 11:41:40

Thank you for your positive posts about me Namsnanny.I appreciate it.

Iam64 Sun 13-Mar-22 11:43:43

I’ve just read that the Queen would prefer to miss the Commonwealth service than depend on a wheelchair.

We don’t always have to experience something to have the ability to empathise. Personal experience may enhance our understanding but there will always be some who couldn’t empathise no matter what

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 13-Mar-22 11:44:10

I felt she might well perceive it that way volver. I don’t but I’m not head of state, always dressed up and centre stage am I? I expect you remember Princess Margaret emerging in a wheelchair, her health having really gone downhill. I doubt the Queen has forgotten the public reaction.

volver Sun 13-Mar-22 11:48:19

Can you imagine how positive an image it would give if a HoS could be shown to still be fulfilling her duties whilst in a wheelchair?

Can you imagine the boost that would give to the perception of people who use wheelchairs?

But no, an image of perfection must be maintained at all times.

Galaxy Sun 13-Mar-22 11:51:06

Thankyou maddy. What I was saying was that sone families will have close relationships with cousins and many wont. This doesnt mean there is anything missing in those families it just means they do things diffetently. We don't even actually know that the cousins in the royal family are close just because sometimes we see them on family photos together. I think that might be part of the fantasy thats created but obviously I cant know for sure.

Galaxy Sun 13-Mar-22 11:52:15

Although my lack of cousins may have impacted on my typing abilitygrin

maddyone Sun 13-Mar-22 12:09:47

volver

Can you imagine how positive an image it would give if a HoS could be shown to still be fulfilling her duties whilst in a wheelchair?

Can you imagine the boost that would give to the perception of people who use wheelchairs?

But no, an image of perfection must be maintained at all times.

I agree. But of course, it’s just my opinion. I think it’s rather sad though.

maddyone Sun 13-Mar-22 12:16:31

Annie I just wanted to get back to you about the IVF. I know about your daughter and the difficulties she had trying to have a family. As you know, my daughter also had miscarriages and IVF, but we were lucky because it resulted in our beautiful twins and their brother. IVF is gruelling and how you daughter managed 14 attempts fills me with awe. All the hormones and injections, the regular visits, the treatments in general are just gruelling and heart breaking to watch as a parent. Even afterwards the hormones continue to wreak havoc and often cause post natal depression, which we went through with our daughter. It’s a very difficult time and if unsuccessful continues to be difficult.

maddyone Sun 13-Mar-22 12:16:53

Galaxy flowers