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I have just watched a woman being interviewed and she became quite upset as she attended a stop violence against women demo in Manchester and they were attacked by trans activists.
She explained that this was organised to follow International Woman’s Day and was about stopping violence against all women and girls. They had paint thrown on them and various other attacks. This poor lady was bewildered and upset, understandably, that trans activists could behave this way. I don’t understand it either and it does seem to me that some of these militant trans activists aren’t trans at all; they just hate women. It’s about time we all said enough!
Iam64
The activists are as you suggest Dickens, not representative of the wider trans communities.
The activists target feminist conferences and marches.
Feminists who express concerns about self ID and women only spaces are subject to abuse. My friends who were subject to death threats, including the threat to rape you to death had to leave social media for their own safety
The activists are as you suggest Dickens, not representative of the wider trans communities.
That is what I thought. They are, in fact, a minority - but get a lot of press
Feminists who express concerns about self ID and women only spaces are subject to abuse. My friends who were subject to death threats, including the threat to rape you to death had to leave social media for their own safety
... those are the kind of incidents I read about.
But what's to be done? These aren't the types to sit round a table and discuss 'things'.
All the threats of rape, murder, violence, reflect the warped mind of the male misogynist. My instinctive feeling is that they want to enter the female world, not to be part of it, but to own it. They resent 'safe spaces / places' because it excludes them from having power over women.
... and trans women activists who want to 'rape to death' are not men identifying as women, they are men showing their true identity.
I actually feel more sorry for trans women - we are on to these activists, but the rest of the world us judging them by the actions of the minority. Who makes the headlines? Not the trans women, but the activists.
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I don't think it is ever fair to blame the admin on GN. They are just doing what they are paid for. It isn't personal and shouldn't be taken as such. I've had whole threads disappear.
The only thing I want to know is why does it always happen when I've gone off to do something else. I just have to try and imagine what's been said!
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Iam64
GrannyGravy13, it certainly feels as though women on gransnet are being silenced.
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Yes Callistemon, really
Why ?
Callistemon21
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Really???
People who abuse are incredibly manipulative and it needs to be acknowledged and any changes that affect safeguarding need to be considered carefully. That isn't transphobic, it is just being sensible.
I agree JaneJudge; I have a niece who is vulnerable and lives reasonably independently with support but there is always that concern with safeguarding.
Until these deleted posts, I’d had one deleted a good while ago
It’s been strange today, deleted almost as soon as they have been posted. Like many others, I’m wary of posting
Not one post but Posts!!
Michael, might I suggest you look more closely at why sensible, reasonable posters are getting riled enough to have their posts deleted?
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The activists are as you suggest Dickens, not representative of the wider trans communities.
The activists target feminist conferences and marches.
Feminists who express concerns about self ID and women only spaces are subject to abuse. My friends who were subject to death threats, including the threat to rape you to death had to leave social media for their own safety
I've just been looking at the actions of some of the more volatile trans women activists, in Scotland and the wider world - ignoring the more salacious stories.
This is a completely new world to me because although I have a trans woman friend, our friendship is based purely on shared interests about which we are both passionate, and strange as it might seem, we have never discussed transgenderism. She never raises the issue, so neither do I. That's the level - nil - of my knowledge.
But what I have read is shocking to the core - the calls for feminists to be "throat-punched", and worse. I'm not going to elaborate because it's easy to get carried away and present a mis-leading picture of trans women. But these activists really do take the biscuit.
The point I would like to make is that from what I can gather, they are often well-known, making regular appearances at women's events, and are also very vocal on certain social media, and I am thinking that they are, in fact, a minority, but a minority with a very big 'presence'.
I hope I am right, and this is true, and that these particular 'activists' are not at all representative of the majority of trans women. Who, surely, must abhor the violence and sheer thuggery of these activists, and be worried that they are going to be viewed in the light of their utter madness.
The second point - and again, I admit my lack of knowledge here is - are these volatile and violent activists in fact really trans women in the now accepted sense of the word, or are they a 'subset' of male misogynists who have adopted this role as a way to attack women? They insist they "are women too" and dress as women, etc, but their violent behaviour is, very generally speaking, quite the opposite of that of the average, ordinary woman. I have read of them joking about gagging feminists with their penises - so when I read things like that, I cannot help but wonder if they really do identify as women. Because that, to me, sounds very much like misogynistic male behaviour.
Excuse my ignorance - I'm willing to be educated about a world of which I've not had experience - didn't know existed - apart from my above-mentioned friend. Her only reference to her own transgenderism was a simple announcement to close friends that, after many years thought and struggles, she had decided to identify as a woman and would we please call her by her new name "xxx" which she chose because it had always had an appeal. So I knew her before she transitioned (though I don't know the extent of the process) and 'she' is exactly the same person as when she was a 'he' - kind, generous, sweet-natured and totally absorbed in the hobbies / interests we both share. And it was an easy 'transition' for me to accept him as her - basically, because nothing changed much.
Are these activists really of the same group?
grannydarkhair
Trisher that’s a nice wee video of people obviously enjoying themselves. Such a contrast to the march that this thread is about and in the same city. Perhaps the presence of so many men scared the trans activists away?
I don't know why grannydarkhair I was just so pleased to see that an IWD march had gone ahead this year.
Oh no Doodledog don't be reluctant to post. Your posts are some of the best on this topic.
Trisher that’s a nice wee video of people obviously enjoying themselves. Such a contrast to the march that this thread is about and in the same city. Perhaps the presence of so many men scared the trans activists away?
I am also reluctant to post, but want to add my agreement, Molly.
Mollygo really good points in your post.
No it was nothing of the sort Mollygo and is spot on. The best thing the trans community can do is to voice their dismay and disgust at the behaviour of these so called trans activists.
We need sensible posts in relation to this topic, so don't be put off
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Smileless2012
That's an excellent point Molllgo, well said.
Thank you Smileless. I’m nervous about posting anything at the moment. But I’m sure my post wasn’t a derailment or a deviation so it should be OK.
Everything I’ve read confirms the trans community doesn’t support the actions of these activists.
That’s a good point Mollygo, the trans community could stand against the activists.
I’ve mentioned before, 3 friends who attended a feminist conference were subjected to abuse, including threats to ‘rape you to death’
Male violence at its worst is
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