Johnson's offensive speech at the Conservative Party Spring Conference.

There is an EU summit this week to talk about Ukraine. It was intended to invite Johnson, to which he has responded positively, but they have decided that he would have nothing useful to contribute after last weeks remarks, so have not extended an invitation.

So because of our fool of an PM, the U.K. will not be party to decisions made about Ukraine nor be able to contribute anything useful.

DH has just written to our MP to complain. I will do so later. What annoys me is that Johnson speaks on the world stage for me and the rest of the world must have the most awful opinion of British people. Those in Scotland and Ireland must feel even more aggrieved, their country not having voted for brexit.

The jackals are circling! Sky News is headlining PM used direct influence to get animals out of Iraq; no great crime as said animals went in luggage hold but all part of what looks like a campaign to oust Our Great Leader. If the May elections punish the Tories, he will be gone by Christmas.

Or even Afghanistan.

Whitewavemark2

There is an EU summit this week to talk about Ukraine. It was intended to invite Johnson, to which he has responded positively, but they have decided that he would have nothing useful to contribute after last weeks remarks, so have not extended an invitation.

Is this the high-level EU/US security meeting WWM? He has expressed an interest in going. He will be in the city for a NATO meeting.

Liz Truss previously attended. However, when you have just compared the leaders of Europe with a tyrant who is committing War Crimes, you might expect that you would be persona non grata.

Just how much longer must this man be allowed to destroy our country?

Boris Johnson is being treated like an untrustworthy Kremlin-sponsored clown.

I wonder why?

To misquote your hero, Boris;

Careless words cost votes.

Please "hush your mouth"

DaisyAnne

Whitewavemark2

There is an EU summit this week to talk about Ukraine. It was intended to invite Johnson, to which he has responded positively, but they have decided that he would have nothing useful to contribute after last weeks remarks, so have not extended an invitation.

Is this the high-level EU/US security meeting WWM? He has expressed an interest in going. He will be in the city for a NATO meeting.

Liz Truss previously attended. However, when you have just compared the leaders of Europe with a tyrant who is committing War Crimes, you might expect that you would be persona non grata.

Just how much longer must this man be allowed to destroy our country?

Yes that’s the one.

I think Biden will possibly be there?

Who would you trust to sell you a house, car and tell you the truth. Johnson or Keir Starmer? It drives me mad to hear we have no alternative but Johnson. What about Jeremy Hunt? Surely he is a better option. If only Rory Stewart would step forward again. One thing is for sure Johnson has to go before he does further damage with his lies and loose mouth. He is a security risk, useless and he portrays the UK in the worst possible light.

MayBee70

DH has just written to our MP to complain. I will do so later. What annoys me is that Johnson speaks on the world stage for me and the rest of the world must have the most awful opinion of British people. Those in Scotland and Ireland must feel even more aggrieved, their country not having voted for brexit.

My partner and I run a technical consultancy agency, and most of our customers / clients are in Europe.

We chat. I can assure you that they are well aware that Johnson does not represent the British people, en masse. They understand our antiquated voting system and that it gave us a man and his party that the majority did not vote for. They are sympathetic, and angry... they also have similar 'products' in their own nations.

I don't know how the rest of the world views us, but certainly the Europeans I talk to do not feel any animosity towards the British people in general.

Johnson I think would prefer that they did so that he could ratchet up his phoney 'war' with the EU...

... that comment gives a clear indication of, not only his muddled thinking, but his intention to continue the "us" against "them" message.

If he has the capacity for reflection or self-awareness, he should use it - because when even staunch Brexiters cringe at his observations, then he's going to be viewed as a loose cannon at some point, and they'll remove his projectile and powder... so to speak.

Whitewavemark2

DaisyAnne

Whitewavemark2

There is an EU summit this week to talk about Ukraine. It was intended to invite Johnson, to which he has responded positively, but they have decided that he would have nothing useful to contribute after last weeks remarks, so have not extended an invitation.

Is this the high-level EU/US security meeting WWM? He has expressed an interest in going. He will be in the city for a NATO meeting.

Liz Truss previously attended. However, when you have just compared the leaders of Europe with a tyrant who is committing War Crimes, you might expect that you would be persona non grata.

Just how much longer must this man be allowed to destroy our country?

Yes that’s the one.

I think Biden will possibly be there?

I'm not sure WWM but you would think so as it seems high level. I just hope they decide to do something more to help.

Well the So far (NATO meeting I assume) they have decided to send a lot more effective hardware.

Tweet

“Boris Johnson will be the only major Western leader to be shut out of the room when Joe Biden joins the European Council for discussions about the Ukraine crisis later this week.

Can we please put to bed any childish Brexiter fantasies about leading the World now?”

He failed in the Middle East last week.
What an embarrassment he is.

I cannot see why they don't intervene WWM. I know and understand the arguments for not doing so but surely no one thinks he will stop on the edge of Ukraine?

There was a time when the president of the USA would have stopped off on his way to Europe.

Thanks for the update Whitewave. What a mess.

DaisyAnne

I cannot see why they don't intervene WWM. I know and understand the arguments for not doing so but surely no one thinks he will stop on the edge of Ukraine?

Well I’m sure their war gaming will be telling them alternative scenarios and which is most likely to happen. I guess and hope that they are preparing for such an event, but would be astounded if they made public their plans.

One thing for sure, they must be very circumspect in what they tell our PM, as he appears such a big security risk.

I assume the U.K. security services will be included in the planning though.

Why wouldn’t we be in the planning?
We are the only European country in 5 eyes.
I’ve put this link up as I feel some on here don’t realise ( or don’t want to ) know how good our security is.
Btw. Germany were refused membership.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk/the-five-eyes-the-intelligence-alliance-of-the-anglosphere/

You would hope so. What do the allies do if they don't trust him?

Things often come out of nowhere in politics. Perhaps becoming a pariah state means the Tories finally realise the man has to go. We can only hope.

The problem is MerylStreep that you can’t trust a 5 year old with the Crown Jewels.

MerylStreep

Why wouldn’t we be in the planning?
We are the only European country in 5 eyes.
I’ve put this link up as I feel some on here don’t realise ( or don’t want to ) know how good our security is.
Btw. Germany were refused membership.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk/the-five-eyes-the-intelligence-alliance-of-the-anglosphere/

No one is saying that our security is poor re - the link. And I said that our security services will be advised. But we will not be taking part in the decision making. Johnson has been refused an invitation.

What they have to give consideration to is Johnson.

Undoubtedly he is a risk.

I don't think anyone is questioning our security, which will be involved in the planning, rather some of the perceived risks to it. Some consider Johnson to be a risk because of his close connections with Russian oligarchs.

Germany were refused membership of 5 eyes - but we don't know why because their operations are highly secretive, but it's to do with whether Germany (and France) would be willing to accept the co-ordination of their foreign policies that comes along with the agreement.

But they are a member of 14 eyes - and 5 eyes are quite happy to use German technology, BTW.

All is never quite as it seems.

Ukraine war: Prime minister is 'leading free world' in response to crisis, says Conservative co-chair

news.sky.com/video/ukraine-war-prime-minister-is-leading-free-world-in-response-to-crisis-says-conservative-co-chair-12569967

Funny that the leader of the free world is not invited to the strategic conference of the EU and US.