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Johnson's offensive speech at the Conservative Party Spring Conference.

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DaisyAnne Sat 19-Mar-22 19:56:43

He compared the "battles of Brexit" to those of Ukraine. If you can't believe your eyes, yes, he compared the "battles of Brexit" to those of Ukraine.

This speech was inexcusable. I saw it earlier and was horrified. Then you remember these are the tactics the New Right use - appealing to the lowest common denominator with Boris humour. This is the lowest he could sink. I can't see how anyone could find it funny but he was grinning away at the attendees.

They may have had to be seen attending to Covid, the cost of living crisis and the War in Ukraine but much of that, like Gove's temper tantrum, is PR designed window dressing. They were and still are only interested in politics, in winning the next election.

This wicked and immoral party will pretend Covid is over - goodness it's almost like no one died. Their MPs will tell you the only people who need food banks need to go out and get a job or increased hours. And although they will condemn the destructions of people's lives in Ukraine, they will do their level best to make it difficult, if not impossible, for them to come here.

Meanwhile, you can watch a very well made programme on Channel 4 tonight called "What if Putin goes Nuclear". At least some people are taking this seriously.

Devorgilla Sat 19-Mar-22 20:10:52

John Grace had it bang to rights when he wrote that the Ukrainians had elected a comedian and got a leader while the British had elected a comedian and got a comedian. DaisyAnne, I agree with you that it is inexcusable. Desperate to 'divide and rule' once again over Brexit. Boris, you got it done, but you haven't made it work and that becomes even more painfully obvious with every day that passes.

Shinamae Sat 19-Mar-22 20:12:45

Devorgilla

John Grace had it bang to rights when he wrote that the Ukrainians had elected a comedian and got a leader while the British had elected a comedian and got a comedian. DaisyAnne, I agree with you that it is inexcusable. Desperate to 'divide and rule' once again over Brexit. Boris, you got it done, but you haven't made it work and that becomes even more painfully obvious with every day that passes.

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volver Sat 19-Mar-22 20:19:23

Very good OP DaisyAnne.

paddyann54 Sat 19-Mar-22 21:42:29

Boris Johnson is offensive to the whole of humankind,and if you dont think he is you're part of the problem.
The Ukraine situation has given him his chance to play at being Churchill ,his hero,and whilst I'm no fan of his either at least he didn't behave like the village idiot in public .
Surely there cant be anyone who could with any conscience vote for him again?

DaisyAnne Sat 19-Mar-22 21:50:18

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Boris Johnson compares Ukraine's fight for freedom to "the British people voting for Brexit 'in large numbers' :
"it was because they wanted to be free to do things differently, for this country to be able to do things differently and run itself"
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More (awkward?) linking of Ukraine by Johnson to domestic UK political views
'We believe people should be able to do what they like.. as long as they don't harm anybody else...
We don't need to be woke. We want to be free
That is why talented people are fleeing Russia right now'

DaisyAnne Sat 19-Mar-22 21:56:31

I would normally switch HB off in a heartbeat rather than listen to her but credit where credit's due.

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Even as a staunch Brexiteer, this is totally cringe from
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not sure being invaded by a larger neighbour is comparable to belonging to a trading pact with friendly neighbouring countries

Galaxy Sat 19-Mar-22 22:09:29

Johnson was keeping interesting company on the night Putin invaded Ukraine. Perhaps he is trying to distract from this.

MayBee70 Sat 19-Mar-22 22:43:59

Headlines in both The Times and The Observer castigating Johnson’s speech. He will, of course, get away with it the way he gets away with everything….angry

Dickens Sat 19-Mar-22 23:30:21

MayBee70

Headlines in both The Times and The Observer castigating Johnson’s speech. He will, of course, get away with it the way he gets away with everything….angry

... he will get away with it.

There are Brexiters who think the EU is an evil conspiracy - more than one has told me it's the Fourth Reich. And they will lap it up.

He will definitely get away with it. Doesn't matter what he does, or says, he has a very nationalistic support base - and they will agree with him. Because he's convinced them they're 'fighting' for their freedom.

It's absurd comparison - contemptuous. But it will work...

Hetty58 Sat 19-Mar-22 23:39:11

Of course it will work - as there's no cure for stupid.

vegansrock Sun 20-Mar-22 02:50:14

Makes me sick. To compare Brexit to being bombed out of your home and people dying is beyond cringeworthy it’s offensive.

Lucca Sun 20-Mar-22 03:32:13

Shocked to read this. Anybody keen to defend it ?

BlueBelle Sun 20-Mar-22 06:42:12

He’s a incompetent idiot who would get away with murdering his granny and anyone who still think he’s a good bloke or worse still a good leader needs a psychiatrist
Galaxy what company was he keeping ?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 20-Mar-22 06:52:30

We already know that Johnson is capable of saying the most outrageous things, his entire life is scattered with it. If he isn’t lying, he is offending.

But the worse thing as far as this country is concerned is that he is a security risk.

That is why he should be gone.

Dickens Sun 20-Mar-22 07:19:10

He really is a loose canon isn't he?

He's basically, with this speech, brought the whole attention back to him because he got Brexit "done".

There's over 100 empty pushchairs and strollers lined up in a square in Ukraine, representing the number of children killed in this war to date. And there will inevitably be more. How the feck does this compare with leaving a trade bloc, voluntarily?

Riverwalk Sun 20-Mar-22 07:30:07

He really is despicable.

The idiot is enjoying all this grandstanding on the world stage and having a 'good war'.

DaisyAnne Sun 20-Mar-22 07:32:06

The thing I am most upset by is that he is not only lying about the feelings in this country, he is misrepresenting the Ukrainians.

One of the reasons they are giving their lives is to have the choice not only to join the UN in the future but to join the EU.

Sadly, like Putin, he is not an idiot. He is a very evil man with his own agenda about how he can remain in power.

MaizieD Sun 20-Mar-22 07:35:52

According to the Guardian Johnson is using this conference to launch his campaign for the next General Election. Which must be why Brexit is back on the menu after having been a forbidden word for so long. I think we have to expect to hear a lot about Brexit and 'vaccines' for the next couple of years as he has no other successes to point to.

I think that his fans will lap up his disgusting comments, they love a war analogy; the question now is whether there are enough of them to bring him the same result as last time.

Ladyleftfieldlover Sun 20-Mar-22 07:35:58

One day he won’t get away with it. More and more Tories will realise that he is too toxic to win an election any more. Some commentators say you shouldn’t change the PM during a war. Churchill wasn’t PM at the start of WW2. It was Chamberlain. Imagine if he had remained in charge? JR-M’s comments too about Partygate! Left me seething. Do senior Tories take us all as idiots? I think they do.

Riverwalk Sun 20-Mar-22 07:40:19

The UK is not at war but Johnson is acting like he's a war leader!

As if.

MaizieD Sun 20-Mar-22 07:40:33

Sadly, like Putin, he is not an idiot. He is a very evil man with his own agenda about how he can remain in power.

Exactly, DaisyAnne.

But when even people who dislike him continue to believe in the bumbling idiot persona he gets away with a great deal.

Lucca Sun 20-Mar-22 07:50:24

What is jrm’s latest ?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 20-Mar-22 07:51:00

I think we have to expect to hear a lot about Brexit and 'vaccines' for the next couple of years as he has no other successes

Brexit isn’t a success, far from it, and the vaccines were a success of scientists and the NHS.

You are right about the next election though. The Tories have been put on election alert.

Frankly I’m not interested in what he hasn’t achieved but more interested in what he says he’s going to achieve if re-elected.

All lies of course

Whitewavemark2 Sun 20-Mar-22 07:51:44

Lucca

What is jrm’s latest ?

“Illegal parties were mere fluff”