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Deliberate and orchestrated silencing of trans rights supporters on GN

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GagaJo Fri 25-Mar-22 22:01:21

As the usual posters on trans threads know, I support trans rights and also self-label as an intersectional feminist.

The irony of that statement however, is that after the first few posts on the threads that deal with trans issues, I invariably more or less step away from them, other than the occasional comment. There are quite a few other posters that do the same. I could name them, but that would be inappropriate. The reason that we do this is due to the animosity and personal insults that are bandied about, towards those of us that support trans equality. No doubt, the same things will happen on this thread.

The point of this thread, therefore, is to show, publically, that despite the orchestrated attacks from gender criticial feminists, that there are still a good number of us that do not take that position.

To anyone that reads these threads but is too intimidated to join in for the reasons given above, I'm just saying, we are still here!

Mollygo Tue 29-Mar-22 13:01:01

No. trisher, no more than the posts on here trying to silence females is a question of wanting your prejudices validated, although actually, you seem to be wanting that.
It was a simple question , about a terrifying experience and I find it hard to believe any female would not agree that it was wrong.
But I was warned.

SueDonim Tue 29-Mar-22 13:01:57

Women who have identified as women are once again permitted to compete

What does this mean when we can’t even define what a woman is? confused

On the NHS pregnancy question topic, I wonder what would happen if natal men started answering yes, they did indeed think they were pregnant.

VioletSky Tue 29-Mar-22 13:18:04

Mollygo

Can you explain what "I was warned" meant please

I have a good idea by what others have told me but I would like to know your answer

Doodledog Tue 29-Mar-22 13:25:39

trisher

Doodledog

More asthma sufferers would struggle with hills than men are likely to be pregnant ?.

A pregnant transmit knows that they are pregnant because of their female body, just as an asthmatic is aware of the triggers of their asthma. That is the parallel.

As I am sure you know.

Some women give birth without ever knowing they are pregnant. Are transmen different?
It isn't about someone knowing they are pregnant anyway. It's about warning of the dangers of a procedure.

How many people 'transition' to male, having had heterosexual sex as a woman within a timeframe that means that they conceived a baby but don't yet know they are pregnant, and then need to undergo a procedure that could harm that baby in circumstances in which their medical records are not available to hospital staff attending them? Enough to warrant a change to policy, in your view? My guess is that in most years the number would be exactly none, but ok, we can allow for the element of doubt.

But the fact that a nebulous 'most' (but non-countable) number of transwomen are 'not a danger' (whatever that means) to vulnerable women in prison, hospitals, refuges or changing rooms means that policies should include them as though there is no difference between people with penises and those without, and any element of doubt in this case has to be ignored, as it would be discriminatory if it were to be taken into consideration?

And these things are, in your view, happening in the name of Intersectional Feminism?

Rosie51 Tue 29-Mar-22 14:41:43

trisher can I please ask once again (it's getting tiring now!) that you don't quote me when you're answering someone else's post, or attribute a quote to me that someone else made? Not because I necessarily disagree with the points made, but out of basic respect for this individual. Your post at 12.36. Perhaps you could ask GN to remove the quote from your post?

And now back to read the replies after you've quoted me out of context!

GagaJo Tue 29-Mar-22 14:59:32

VioletSky

Mollygo

Can you explain what "I was warned" meant please

I have a good idea by what others have told me but I would like to know your answer

I think there is a good amount of 'backroom' discussion going on VS.

I wouldn't let it worry you.

Mollygo Tue 29-Mar-22 15:19:06

Life isn’t all about any one poster on GN. Why would you think it has anything to do with you VS?

Doodledog Tue 29-Mar-22 15:49:42

GagaJo

VioletSky

Mollygo

Can you explain what "I was warned" meant please

I have a good idea by what others have told me but I would like to know your answer

I think there is a good amount of 'backroom' discussion going on VS.

I wouldn't let it worry you.

Well, clearly, if 'others have told' VS.

I have no idea who knows what, if that helps anyone ?.

Mollygo Tue 29-Mar-22 15:53:44

I would quote the above post, and add to it, but
I have been warned of the consequences!

VioletSky Tue 29-Mar-22 15:54:45

Mollygo oh, I'm sure you have a simple explanation then?

GagaJo Tue 29-Mar-22 16:00:49

DD, maybe there is an 'in' gang and you're not in? Probably a good thing.

Mollygo Tue 29-Mar-22 16:35:54

I don’t do gangs, in or out. Sorry to disappoint anyone.

Smileless2012 Tue 29-Mar-22 16:36:36

Nor me, not since primary school anyway.

VioletSky Tue 29-Mar-22 17:28:53

Truth always slips out lol

Mollygo Tue 29-Mar-22 17:40:03

Smileless2012

Nor me, not since primary school anyway.

Oh yes Smileless2012. Primary school calls someone called Mimi to mind. She ran that gang with an iron fist. I wasn’t allowed in because I was too independent minded.

Doodledog Tue 29-Mar-22 17:50:45

GagaJo

DD, maybe there is an 'in' gang and you're not in? Probably a good thing.

?

Smileless2012 Tue 29-Mar-22 18:09:22

I don't think there was a girl at my primary school who wasn't in a gang Mollygo. No Mimi's thank goodness, no nastiness just girls with similar interests joining up in friendship groups.

Happy dayssmile.

Iam64 Tue 29-Mar-22 19:08:40

Catching up here. Take a day out doing Important Stuff and return to GroundHog day. Talk about kettle, pot, black. If there Are playground gangs here, I’ve no difficulty at all identifying the one I’d feel safest in

Smileless2012 Tue 29-Mar-22 21:14:12

The friendship group gangs are definitely the best Iamsmile.

Chewbacca Tue 29-Mar-22 21:51:15

Is their an initiation ceremony to join? Funny handshakes? Kissing a chicken's head? Handstands? Asking for a friend.

Mollygo Tue 29-Mar-22 22:00:38

I don’t know, but by implication, GGJ knows there might be when she says
DD, maybe there is an 'in' gang and you're not in?
I don’t need to be in a gang, but the warning I received makes me very careful what I say!

VioletSky Tue 29-Mar-22 22:02:27

Gosh I must be terrifying lol

Galaxy Tue 29-Mar-22 22:03:38

I think it involves quoting Harry Potter, Chewbacca.

Mollygo Tue 29-Mar-22 22:07:19

You mean you know something about it Galaxy? I’m so . . .
Could the password to get in be Transfiguration?
(Turning one thing into another!)

Casdon Tue 29-Mar-22 22:07:30

You’re right Galaxy, I’d say it’s Sectumsempra.