War crimes in Ukraine

This was my source for the 48%.
www.britishgas.co.uk/energy/guides/energy-sources.html

I just checked out the government sanctions, the current plan is to stop coal and oil imports from Russia by the end of 2022. For gas no date given, it’s ‘as soon as possible’.

Thanks Casdon. And GG13 says in the article she posted that it’s about a third of our gas that comes from Norway, so whatever the exact figure is, it’s better than if it came from Russia.

I hope this goes ahead

I’m keen to see a similar embargo in the UK GrannyGravy13, there has to be a way we can achieve it here too. It should actually be easier as we are less dependent on Russian fuel.

Do you think it will happen in the EU? (serious question, no sarcasm...)

No volver I don’t. Not for lack of will, but for economic and practical reasons. It’s a war of words between Russia and Europe/UK about this. I do think that long term Russia will regret their current stance on fuel though because alternatives will ultimately be found.

Good article here from ITV news, it’s a very complex picture for the UK to achieve this goal, it must be even harder for Europe.
www.itv.com/news/2022-04-07/how-can-the-uk-cut-reliance-on-russian-fossil-fuels-and-curb-energy-bills

volver

Do you think it will happen in the EU? (serious question, no sarcasm...)

Honestly, no.

I do not think the populations have the stomach for fuel/energy rationing, and I do not think any European Government (including the U.K.) has the balls to impose it. I hope I am proved wrong…

I personally would go along with fuel/energy rationing here in the U.K. Other than boots on the ground which I am against I cannot see any other way of getting through to President Putin. It would take weeks/months but compared to what the remaining population of Ukraine is experiencing it’s a worthwhile inconvenience.

Russia has been suspended from the UN Human Rights Council.

Apparently 28 Countries voted against this along with Countries abstaining.

Will the Russian population get to know this?

At a guess, no.

It would seem that the war is almost likely to intensify over the next weeks.

It seems to me that NATO using Ukraine as a proxy in its war with Russia, is on a footing to nothing unless it ensures Russia is defeated.

If Russia wins, I would not like to think what the future holds.

I think most of our gas comes from Norway. Lucky us.

Whitewavemark2

It would seem that the war is almost likely to intensify over the next weeks.

It seems to me that NATO using Ukraine as a proxy in its war with Russia, is on a footing to nothing unless it ensures Russia is defeated.

If Russia wins, I would not like to think what the future holds.

Yes it was NATO that was “courting” Ukraine to join, now they must give the the weapons to kick the Russians out.
Then of course help rebuild Ukraine.

GrannyGravy13

Russia has been suspended from the UN Human Rights Council.

Apparently 28 Countries voted against this along with Countries abstaining.

Will the Russian population get to know this?

China sided with Russia.

It seems to me that the world is picking sides.

At the very least it would appear to be a new and bigger Cold War

Urmstongran

I think most of our gas comes from Norway. Lucky us.

7 o'clock last night, on this thread, GG13 posted a screenshot that showed that most of our gas does not come from Norway.

It seems most of our gas comes from the North Sea and Norway. Russia provide us with about 3%:

inews.co.uk/news/uk-gas-where-from-how-much-russia-import-britain-supplies-explained-1504257

volver

Urmstongran

I think most of our gas comes from Norway. Lucky us.

7 o'clock last night, on this thread, GG13 posted a screenshot that showed that most of our gas does not come from Norway.

Haven't you realised yet, volver that it is a fact universally acknowledged that many Gnet posters are highly unlikely to have read and absorbed any information posted before they make their own comment.

DiamondLily

It seems most of our gas comes from the North Sea and Norway. Russia provide us with about 3%:

inews.co.uk/news/uk-gas-where-from-how-much-russia-import-britain-supplies-explained-1504257

QED

Oh I know MaizieD. I know....

Well I read in the Telegraph or Daily Mail that it did. There was a bar chart showing a huge long line on it .... from Norway.
Admittedly I don’t then rush off to fact check.

I’ve just Googled it.
This government website states that most of the UK gas comes from Norway!

www.gov.uk/government/news/russia-ukraine-and-uk-energy-factsheet

And this source says about a third.

inews.co.uk/news/uk-gas-where-from-how-much-russia-import-britain-supplies-explained-1504257

Anyway, it’s not from Russia so we are lucky.

Urmstongran

Well I read in the Telegraph or Daily Mail that it did. There was a bar chart showing a huge long line on it .... from Norway.
Admittedly I don’t then rush off to fact check.

Fact checking of everything published in those two 'news'papers is highly recommended. As is also anything published by the government that has a liar for a leader.

Our single largest source of gas is from the UK Continental Shelf and the vast majority of imports come from reliable suppliers such as Norway.

It may have escaped your notice Urmstongran, but we have a rather significant Oil and Gas industry extracting gas from the UK Continental Shelf. Then, the vast majority of our imports come from reliable suppliers such as Norway.

It does not say that most UK gas comes from Norway...