Will you vote Tory next time?

Agree with you 're 09.36 Germanshepherdsmum

Don't you need to keep it for yourself volver or do you have a plentiful supply?

Good morning Chewbacca Its a nice day here. How is it with you?

I look forward to your thoughtful input on the matter at hand. ☀️

One thing is for sure in the coming local elections I shall vote for the best candidate, if they are standing again I will look at their last achievements.

I will not adopt the anyone but a Conservative mindset just to oust what could be a perfectly good and honest councillor just because they are sporting a blue rosette.

Never have, never will and to be honest for the very first time ever, I'm considering not voting at all. Hobson's Choice a leader here obsessed with Independence at any cost, or Conservative- no thanks. Voting for Greens which is the same as voting SNP and who bang on about the environment and greenspaces, while destroying greenspaces in my county as Scottish Government overturns planning objections. Or vote Labour or Liberal, the lot of its a complete waste of time. I really don't care anymore, this country is stuffed.

That’s always my approach in local elections GrannyGravy. You need your local councillor to deal with all sorts of mundane but locally important issues. The chap I last voted for is a Lib Dem, he’s really excellent and I will vote for him again but if he were to stand as an MP he wouldn’t get my vote. Why potentially sacrifice your ability to have a councillor who really looks after local things that are important to you and your community just to ‘send a message’? Cutting off nose to spite face comes to mind.

Morning volver; bright and sunny here too - Spring has sprung!
Maybe you missed my thoughtful input at the beginning of the thread.

We have a local Conservative councillor who does very good work for the community. We also have a great Independent candidate who is as committed to our town.

I could vote for either but I will vote for the Independent as I cannot and will not put my cross besides a Conservative candidate in any form as I will feel I am condoning the behaviour of her party in general and I cannot do that.

Germanshepherdsmum

I remember the days when Labour consisted of credible men in suits (Blair, Brown, Darling etc). Now my overriding impression is of gobby women in cardigans.

Rapidly coming to the conclusion that this is a parody account.

That's very unfortunate Coastpath. I would have to do the same.

Rosie51

I have long said that the ballot paper should include a box for "none of the above" then at the declaration the total votes for "none of the above" would be registered. As it stands a 'spoilt' ballot paper can be for a number of reasons, not necessarily a register of discontent with the parties standing for election.

Completely agree.

Here in Manchester there is a lot of anger towards Andy Burnham because of CAZ (Clean Air Zone). A lot of folk saying they will not vote Labour because of the mess it has caused here, but not sure they want the Tories either!
Would be interested in how other places are dealing with the CAZ.

MaizieD

Germanshepherdsmum

I remember the days when Labour consisted of credible men in suits (Blair, Brown, Darling etc). Now my overriding impression is of gobby women in cardigans.

Rapidly coming to the conclusion that this is a parody account.

Never thought of Yvette Cooper in that way before although she does wear cardigans I think….

Maizie its because they think voting conservative makes them " A better class of person" ,heard from a woman I went to college with in the 80's who believed she was "middle class" because she had a washing machine and a fridge freezer ?
Its that simple and that stupid ,tory voters think tories work for them ....they dont they only work for the mega rich ,because then they get great cashflow,in their own pockets .As witnessed by this circus of clowns and robbers

I've always liked Yvette Cooper. Not one of the gobby brigade. Pity she can't be cloned.

I don't think the way I vote makes me anything Paddy, any more than household appliances do. I am who I am and I vote as I wish.

Maybe you have to be gobby to be a "successful" politician.
It seems to be what the media like (sells more papers etc) and this seems to be where most people get their information from.

Farzanah

I’m a gobby woman and have been known on occasion to wear a cardigan. Doesn’t make my political opinion less valid. Why aren’t men described as “gobby” I wonder?

Same reason little boys are never described as bossy ! But little girls are.

Fennel

Maybe you have to be gobby to be a "successful" politician.
It seems to be what the media like (sells more papers etc) and this seems to be where most people get their information from.

Margaret Thatcher? Theresa May? Yvette Cooper? All successful and none of them gobby.

nadine dorries is gobby though

and she wears a cardigan
and I know she has a calculator as it was the only thing on her bookcase

Barbara Castle could probably be described as gobby

I'm sure she had very nice cardigans too.

Anna Firth, Penny Mourdant, neither could be described as gobby

No, Barbara Castle was not gobby.

Barbara Castle was awesome. If only we had the likes of her now......

She was indeed. The sort of person that made her party a force to be reckoned with. Unlike today’s bunch.

GrannyGravy13

One thing is for sure in the coming local elections I shall vote for the best candidate, if they are standing again I will look at their last achievements.

I will not adopt the anyone but a Conservative mindset just to oust what could be a perfectly good and honest councillor just because they are sporting a blue rosette.

I didn't realise there are upcoming local elections in Essex. There aren't any here.