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Will you vote Tory next time?

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Stella14 Tue 12-Apr-22 12:50:04

Just wondering if those who voted Conservative at the last General Election will do so next time? I ask the question in light of all the scandals associated with this Government, together with the lack of action taken to mitigate the effects of the ‘cost of living crisis’ (despite France, Spain and several other European countries giving much more help to their people), abandoning the Triple Lock (despite retaining it being in their manifesto).

Chewbacca Thu 14-Apr-22 09:49:18

Agree with you 're 09.36 Germanshepherdsmum

Don't you need to keep it for yourself volver or do you have a plentiful supply?

volver Thu 14-Apr-22 09:52:05

Good morning Chewbacca Its a nice day here. How is it with you?

I look forward to your thoughtful input on the matter at hand. ☀️

GrannyGravy13 Thu 14-Apr-22 09:52:50

One thing is for sure in the coming local elections I shall vote for the best candidate, if they are standing again I will look at their last achievements.

I will not adopt the anyone but a Conservative mindset just to oust what could be a perfectly good and honest councillor just because they are sporting a blue rosette.

Pepper59 Thu 14-Apr-22 09:58:17

Never have, never will and to be honest for the very first time ever, I'm considering not voting at all. Hobson's Choice a leader here obsessed with Independence at any cost, or Conservative- no thanks. Voting for Greens which is the same as voting SNP and who bang on about the environment and greenspaces, while destroying greenspaces in my county as Scottish Government overturns planning objections. Or vote Labour or Liberal, the lot of its a complete waste of time. I really don't care anymore, this country is stuffed.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 14-Apr-22 10:02:29

That’s always my approach in local elections GrannyGravy. You need your local councillor to deal with all sorts of mundane but locally important issues. The chap I last voted for is a Lib Dem, he’s really excellent and I will vote for him again but if he were to stand as an MP he wouldn’t get my vote. Why potentially sacrifice your ability to have a councillor who really looks after local things that are important to you and your community just to ‘send a message’? Cutting off nose to spite face comes to mind.

Chewbacca Thu 14-Apr-22 10:06:44

Morning volver; bright and sunny here too - Spring has sprung!
Maybe you missed my thoughtful input at the beginning of the thread.

Coastpath Thu 14-Apr-22 10:38:18

We have a local Conservative councillor who does very good work for the community. We also have a great Independent candidate who is as committed to our town.

I could vote for either but I will vote for the Independent as I cannot and will not put my cross besides a Conservative candidate in any form as I will feel I am condoning the behaviour of her party in general and I cannot do that.

MaizieD Thu 14-Apr-22 10:58:38

Germanshepherdsmum

I remember the days when Labour consisted of credible men in suits (Blair, Brown, Darling etc). Now my overriding impression is of gobby women in cardigans.

Rapidly coming to the conclusion that this is a parody account.

nadateturbe Thu 14-Apr-22 11:00:59

That's very unfortunate Coastpath. I would have to do the same.

glammagran Thu 14-Apr-22 11:40:22

Rosie51

I have long said that the ballot paper should include a box for "none of the above" then at the declaration the total votes for "none of the above" would be registered. As it stands a 'spoilt' ballot paper can be for a number of reasons, not necessarily a register of discontent with the parties standing for election.

Completely agree.

susytish Thu 14-Apr-22 11:45:34

Here in Manchester there is a lot of anger towards Andy Burnham because of CAZ (Clean Air Zone). A lot of folk saying they will not vote Labour because of the mess it has caused here, but not sure they want the Tories either!
Would be interested in how other places are dealing with the CAZ.

MayBee70 Thu 14-Apr-22 11:56:21

MaizieD

Germanshepherdsmum

I remember the days when Labour consisted of credible men in suits (Blair, Brown, Darling etc). Now my overriding impression is of gobby women in cardigans.

Rapidly coming to the conclusion that this is a parody account.

Never thought of Yvette Cooper in that way before although she does wear cardigans I think….confused

paddyann54 Thu 14-Apr-22 12:06:36

Maizie its because they think voting conservative makes them " A better class of person" ,heard from a woman I went to college with in the 80's who believed she was "middle class" because she had a washing machine and a fridge freezer ?
Its that simple and that stupid ,tory voters think tories work for them ....they dont they only work for the mega rich ,because then they get great cashflow,in their own pockets .As witnessed by this circus of clowns and robbers

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 14-Apr-22 12:13:51

I've always liked Yvette Cooper. Not one of the gobby brigade. Pity she can't be cloned.

I don't think the way I vote makes me anything Paddy, any more than household appliances do. I am who I am and I vote as I wish.

Fennel Thu 14-Apr-22 12:20:22

Maybe you have to be gobby to be a "successful" politician.
It seems to be what the media like (sells more papers etc) and this seems to be where most people get their information from.

Lucca Thu 14-Apr-22 12:39:16

Farzanah

I’m a gobby woman and have been known on occasion to wear a cardigan. Doesn’t make my political opinion less valid. Why aren’t men described as “gobby” I wonder?

Same reason little boys are never described as bossy ! But little girls are.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 14-Apr-22 12:56:34

Fennel

Maybe you have to be gobby to be a "successful" politician.
It seems to be what the media like (sells more papers etc) and this seems to be where most people get their information from.

Margaret Thatcher? Theresa May? Yvette Cooper? All successful and none of them gobby.

JaneJudge Thu 14-Apr-22 12:59:42

nadine dorries is gobby though

JaneJudge Thu 14-Apr-22 13:00:11

and she wears a cardigan
and I know she has a calculator as it was the only thing on her bookcase

volver Thu 14-Apr-22 13:00:26

Barbara Castle could probably be described as gobby

I'm sure she had very nice cardigans too.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 14-Apr-22 13:01:43

Anna Firth, Penny Mourdant, neither could be described as gobby

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 14-Apr-22 13:10:53

No, Barbara Castle was not gobby.

Chewbacca Thu 14-Apr-22 15:20:58

Barbara Castle was awesome. If only we had the likes of her now......

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 14-Apr-22 15:25:07

She was indeed. The sort of person that made her party a force to be reckoned with. Unlike today’s bunch.

growstuff Thu 14-Apr-22 15:43:58

GrannyGravy13

One thing is for sure in the coming local elections I shall vote for the best candidate, if they are standing again I will look at their last achievements.

I will not adopt the anyone but a Conservative mindset just to oust what could be a perfectly good and honest councillor just because they are sporting a blue rosette.

I didn't realise there are upcoming local elections in Essex. There aren't any here.