Will you vote Tory next time?

I am very aware of the posts saying how people don't admit to voting Tory because they get rounded on, so I am being careful about what I say.

It actually makes me sad when I read things like "Claiming people all followed the rules is ridiculous. They are going to pay fines like anyone else." Are we really in such a state that we don't expect the Prime Minister of the country not to break the law, because of some misplaced idea that "everyone was at it"? They stood there on TV every night telling us that if one person broke the rules we'd all suffer for it. They spent millions on a campaign about "Look her in the eyes and tell her you didn't break the rules". And the whole time, they were breaking the rules.

Is this what we've come to accept as normal behaviour from our leaders? The only "real people" they seem like are the selfish, self centred ones who don't care if you live or die. It makes me so sad that people will accept, even support such behaviour.

We obeyed the rules and so, as far as I know, did all of our friends and aquaintances.

I am sure there were some rile breakers, but should that excuse the rule makers breaking their own rules?

I didn't break any of the covid rules and I don't know the political leanings of those who did

Zuki

Sorry but I think he can handle big issues
like the pandemic and war.I don't see Labour doing that

There are other Tory MPs you know, who haven’t knowingly lied to parliament. There has to be somebody with integrity who could do the job of PM better than Boris aka Nero - in fact probably over 300 could. This isn’t a fight to the death with Labour, it’s an issue the Tories need to sort out now.

Some of us factor in a certain level of bad behaviour in our choice of politician. We can all relate to faux pas in what we say or do sometimes. The problem with the current lot is that it is continuous and running away with them. But on the day people wake up to vote will that matter?

It certainly should matter jennek

It absolutely should matter! Faux pas?? Outright lying and criminal behaviour goes way beyond a faux pas! I'm beginning to think Boris could slaughter babies in the street and some folk on here would still excuse his behaviour and vote for him...

Claiming people all followed the rules is ridiculous

So … al those saying Liz should sack him …
turns out it’s not that easy and would she anyway?

We need a head of state able to instantly remove a PM who has lied to Parliament and broken his own rules.

An independent accountable head of state would now be inviting the PM over for a quiet chat.

I thought this thread was seeking the opinion of people who had previously voted for the Conservatives. Not people who have never voted Conservative, aand never will.

As I do not vote conservative, I will offer no opinion.

No, but I never have since 1979 anyway.

My DH, a Tory voter all of his adult life, stopped voting for them when Johnson became leader, and certainly wouldn't again now.

You will still get people coming on saying he is doing a marvellous job and no one one else could ever be so wonderful etc..Anyone would think he was paying for the missiles for Ukraine himself - he won’t even pay for his own wallpaper.

GagaJo

Never have, never will. Why support the party that only gives to the rich?

This.

Whitewavemark2

✅ Enriched Tory donors
✅ Devasted living standards
✅ Broke criminal law
✅ Lied about it to Parliament
✅ Buggered up Brexit
✅ Cut real wages
✅ Put a security risk into Lords
✅ Huge pandemic death toll
✅ Broke promise on energy prices

Johnson's achievements in full.

Well said

Problem is we don’t have a parliamentary system to deal with people such as Johnson ie we can’t impeach him. It’s pretty much a system based on chivalry….it’s expected that those in office will behave honestly. He’s done so many awful things the electorate now just seem to accept that this is how a government works. Peter Kyle has just written about how in March of 2020 he wrote to Johnson warning him of the crisis facing care homes. He never even got a reply. Everything in the current government is about saving Johnson’s political career. Forget the country and it’s people: it’s all about him. And if he and Sunak go, what then? Truss as PM? Dorries as Chancellor? Fabricant as foreign secretary….I’m even forgetting about Patel because she seems to be hiding away at the moment….we, as a country, deserve better than this.

Happygirl79

Whitewavemark2

✅ Enriched Tory donors
✅ Devasted living standards
✅ Broke criminal law
✅ Lied about it to Parliament
✅ Buggered up Brexit
✅ Cut real wages
✅ Put a security risk into Lords
✅ Huge pandemic death toll
✅ Broke promise on energy prices

Johnson's achievements in full.

Well said

Thank you

But it wasn’t me I filched it from twitter and omitted to say so.

But the facts remain✅?

3 pages of Anglocentric comment, with nary a mention that in Wales & Scotland we do have a viable 3rd option i.e. Plaid/SNP. Both are slightly to the left of centre, both work towards mitigating the worst excesses of the UK government.

Here in Scotland, I have had a multitude of leaflets from the Tory Candidate. The message thereon is simply that they are the only party that can beat the SNP - how they hope to achieve that is a mystery as they are only standing one candidate in each ward. Even if they are all elected they will be short of a majority on the Council.

Early canvass returns for the SNP suggest that both of their Candidates in each ward will be elected. Comments indicate that many formerly Tory voters will not vote for them under the current leadership. If they are strongly Unionist they will vote Labour, if not they may vote Green, Liberal, Independent but probably not SNP unless they are voting for a well regarded sitting Councillor. I have never in a lifetime of political activity heard so many people say they will not vote for anyone as they are all corrupt and in it to make money for themselves

Granny23 Isnt it up to those in different regions to inform others of their political situation, as you have done so will say thanks and I envy your choice.

John Curtice on Radio Scotland thinks that the Conservatives will lose their place as the second biggest party in Scotland because of the Johnson thing. The Conservative Party are currently having a meltdown because some Labour candidates have said they would vote Yes to independence, so the Tories want them deselected.

And this is what passes for democracy in this country today.

Always have done….never will again….but don’t know who else is any better????

Do you realise that there might never be another General Election?

The tories have repealed the Fixed Term Parliament Act so now the decision to hold a General Election is now solely in the hands of the PM. Johnson has just demonstrated, with the support of a very large number of tory MPs that he intends to hold on to power and ignore any of the constitutional measures which govern the conduct and power of the PM .

It is seemingly now irrelevant to be asking people how they will vote, because they may never get a chance to do so again.

What credible alternative will there be? Boris has done sterling work with regard to Ukraine. Not sure of another politician here who would have looked so strong.

No but I never have and never would. Can't understand anyone who does.

Always voted conservative but won’t next time. Live in a strong Tory region so will probably vote Lib Dem.

After nearly twelve years of Conservative government we seem to be in an absolute mess with everything. Taxes are higher than ever and money is wasted left right and centre.

I would only vote conservative again if the grown ups came back to run the party. When Boris got in, he got rid of all the experienced mps and replaced them with yes men. I can’t honestly see any other party doing any worse at the moment and I think that at the moment the Tories are mostly intent on lining their own pockets, ignoring the laws and setting a dreadful example to the rest of the country. A spell in opposition would do them good.

Agree with Cambia

I really don't know who I could vote for now.