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What the country thinks about Johnson

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DaisyAnne Mon 18-Apr-22 22:30:24

This is a word cloud was created to represent the most common replies of members of the British public when asked what they think of Boris Johnson.

[Source: JLPartnersPolls focus group]

LizzieDrip Wed 20-Apr-22 17:10:11

Well they would have been in hysterics then if Corbyn had got in. What a mess we would have been in then.

But, Maudi, we’re NOT! Let’s deal with current reality, not hypotheticals.

DiscoDancer1975 Wed 20-Apr-22 17:22:45

Boris the dictator....hardly!

volver Wed 20-Apr-22 17:30:32

This board is obviously populated by a majority of members who would never vote Conservative whoever is PM.

Just a wee comment on this although I'm going a bit off topic.

Of course I'd never vote Conservative whoever is PM. I don't vote Conservative because the values and priorities of the Conservative Party don't match mine. The only people who vote for the Prime Minister are the people in his/her constituency. Then the Party decide who his going to be leader and hence Prime Minister.

You don't vote for the Prime Minister. That's not how it works. We don't have a Presidential system.

MayBee70 Wed 20-Apr-22 17:31:47

DiscoDancer1975

Boris the dictator....hardly!

He seems to think he’s above the law and can do whatever he likes. And his fellow MP’s are scared to oppose him. He’s got such a large majority that he can pass pretty much any law he wants to. Is that not dictator like or am I missing something here?

Daisymae Wed 20-Apr-22 17:35:49

I know several Tory voters who have sworn they will never vote for them again. This includes some who were initially supportive for the first year of the pandemic. Personally I have been driven to join the Labour party.

NannyJan53 Wed 20-Apr-22 17:39:39

Says it all

varian Wed 20-Apr-22 17:57:09

"I have be assured there were no parties" (note the word "assured" so not his fault)

"I was not at a party - it was a work event" - you must have been at some dreadful parties if you really thought that drinks, canapes, wives in attendance, karaoke, dancing etc were a typical work event.

"Aren't you lucky you've got me and not Jeremy Corbyn"

Utter desperation.

kjmpde Wed 20-Apr-22 18:00:03

personally I think Rees- Mogg is the puppet master - so even if you get rid of Johnson will you get rid of Mogg?

varian Wed 20-Apr-22 18:32:04

Mogg doesn't have the brains. His silly old fogey impression is so transparent. No-one could possibly take him seriously.

varian Wed 20-Apr-22 18:40:25

A Conservative MP has launched a verbal tirade against an anti-Brexit protester outside parliament, telling him: "You're nothing but a parasite".

Lee Anderson, who was elected MP for Ashfield in 2019, was asked by activist Steve Bray whether he would still be supporting "liar" Boris Johnson to stay as prime minister.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-protester-tory-mp-tram-parasite-b2061570.html

Steve Bray obviously touched a nerve with this Tory sycophant, struggling to obey instructions.

LadyHonoriaDedlock Wed 20-Apr-22 18:41:06

I make no secret that I am of the left and have been all my life. I was a Labour councillor for two separate stints in different places, although I no longer have anything to do with the Labour Party. When I chaired committee meetings I did not allow personal abuse from anybody and I insisted that members on all sides be heard with respect. I know I earned respect from the Conservatives for this, because they said so when I stood down, and I was able to work with them to get things done, to coin a phrase.

Boris Johnson's career is well-documented, from the report of his Eton housemaster who said "I think he honestly believes that it is churlish of us not to regard him as an exception, one who should be free of the network of obligation which binds everyone else". Has anything changed? I believe he is a man who is ruled by expedience, who will say anything that will get him out of whatever hole he's in at any time, and then say exactly the opposite a few hours later when he is back in his comfort zone. He is a man who will go to great lengths to avoid scrutiny, who has surrounded himself with low-quality sycophants after purging the his party of experienced voices able to stand up to him.

Conservative leaders have come and gone and it would not surprise anybody that I have disagreed with all of them in many ways on policy and philosophy, but this one is different. This one is not a Conservative in any sense that I recognise. This one doesn't have a political philosophy besides being allowed to do just as he likes. This one makes up policy on the hoof according to what he thinks will make him look good in the headlines, and then changes it a few days later when it doesn't look so good for him. This one announces policies that he knows full well won't pass the courts, just so that he can undermine the authority of the law.

You would expect somebody like me to say things like that, I don't doubt. But here's the thing: If I was an old-fashioned, traditional Conservative like the ones I was able to work with in local government then I'd be appalled by what has happened to my party. There are local government elections in a couple of weeks and the likelihood, judging by the polls and the results of local byelections in recent weeks, is that Conservatives are about to get a drubbing, not least in their traditional rural and small-town redoubts. It won't be because the Shires have fallen in love with Labour, it will be in disgust with the way their party leader is playing fast and loose with their traditional values.

Here endeth the sermon. It feels good to get that out of my system.

HolySox Wed 20-Apr-22 18:45:45

Not feeling much love for Boris on GN. But then Putin doesn't much care for Boris either having imposed a ban on him going to Russia.
So, who's side are we (GN) on?
Let's play spot the Russian troll...

LadyHonoriaDedlock Wed 20-Apr-22 18:48:01

Aveline

'credible alternative' in Scotland? Surely some mistake ?

Credible enough, Aveline, for the credible alternative to have attracted enough votes in last years Holyrood elections to come within a whisker of having an overall majority, in a voting system that was specifically designed to prevent that happening.

MaizieD Wed 20-Apr-22 18:50:45

MayBee70

DiscoDancer1975

Boris the dictator....hardly!

He seems to think he’s above the law and can do whatever he likes. And his fellow MP’s are scared to oppose him. He’s got such a large majority that he can pass pretty much any law he wants to. Is that not dictator like or am I missing something here?

He can't be a dictator, MayBee, because he doesn't put people in prison for protesting against him...

Oh, wait...

Police and Criminal Evidence Bill now going through Parliament, 10 year prison sentences for 'being annoying', being loud', disrupting traffic'... hmm

volver Wed 20-Apr-22 18:51:10

HolySox

Not feeling much love for Boris on GN. But then Putin doesn't much care for Boris either having imposed a ban on him going to Russia.
So, who's side are we (GN) on?
Let's play spot the Russian troll...

That's completely out of order Holysox, as I expect you know.

Or maybe you don't, and that would be worse.

MaizieD Wed 20-Apr-22 18:52:23

Actually, being as it's the Home Secretary's Bill, I suppose that should be 'bein' annoyin'...

LadyHonoriaDedlock Wed 20-Apr-22 18:53:10

HolySox

Not feeling much love for Boris on GN. But then Putin doesn't much care for Boris either having imposed a ban on him going to Russia.
So, who's side are we (GN) on?
Let's play spot the Russian troll...

I'm not sure that Putin has anything to do with it. What point are you making? Johnson hasn't said or done anything on Ukraine that any other credible leader would have done at the very least. I can't quite see how this "leading the Western response" comes in.

Casdon Wed 20-Apr-22 18:53:17

Is it you HolySox?

Well said LadyHonoriaDedlock.

MaizieD Wed 20-Apr-22 18:53:18

No troll hunting allowed on Gnet, HolySox

varian Wed 20-Apr-22 19:00:50

HolySox

Not feeling much love for Boris on GN. But then Putin doesn't much care for Boris either having imposed a ban on him going to Russia.
So, who's side are we (GN) on?
Let's play spot the Russian troll...

We don't have to chose between Putin and Johnson. Remember Putin supported Brexit, and helped Johnson to get where he is. Many Russian donors helped to fund the Conservative party and I imagine Putin now considers Johnson a tad ungrateful as the UK has been supporting Ukraine.

Just because Putin is a dangerous bloodthirsty tyrant and Johnson is only a lying, corrupt, national embarrassment, does not mean we cannot oppose both.

We can support the UK while opposing the disgraceful occupant of 10 Downing Street. What dirt did the Russians collect on Johnson during his stays at the homes of Russian oligarchs?

This country could more strongly oppose Putin if Johnson was gone.

DiscoDancer1975 Wed 20-Apr-22 19:48:47

HolySox

Not feeling much love for Boris on GN. But then Putin doesn't much care for Boris either having imposed a ban on him going to Russia.
So, who's side are we (GN) on?
Let's play spot the Russian troll...

??. Very brave of you. Cats and pigeons spring to mind.

DiscoDancer1975 Wed 20-Apr-22 19:56:48

And apparently’ out of order ‘ too. Hope you soon get fixed ?

kevincharley Wed 20-Apr-22 20:08:44

Casdon

I don’t understand why people keep missing the point. Johnson has to go. Johnson going does not mean that Tory voters need to change their allegiance. It’s not about the next general election, that is two years away.

He is not fit to be PM. Simple as.

Agreed.
People don't seem able to dfferentiate between 'party' and 'party leader' (no pun intended, but it fits!).
They also don't seem to see the bigger picture. It's bigger than whether we went to a party or not. The man is a serial liar. What else is going on that he's lying about? Just what does the man have to do before people see him for what he is?

Urmstongran Wed 20-Apr-22 20:13:53

I think Ukrainians have a few words for him.
On a street sign:

“Boris Johnson will have a street named after him in Ukraine in a tribute to Britain's contribution to the war effort.

The council of Fontanka, near Odesa, said: “The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is one of the most principled opponents of the Russian invasion, a leader in sanctions on Russia and defence support for Ukraine."

“Rename Mayakovsky Street to Boris Johnson Street.”

Callistemon21 Wed 20-Apr-22 20:15:36

LadyHonoriaDedlock
Well said.

I know Tory voters who are appalled at this unprincipled PM and don't know who to vote for in the local elections as a consequence.