Tories accuse Angela Raynor of "doing a Basic Instinct"

Ah, I see.
Thank you.

Revolting woman. Will she stop at nothing

Brazen buddy ????

Hussy

Using those disgusting legs!
All womanly and wanton; walking with them, crossing them, shaking her mane of badly done extensions....

Ooh, I must retire to my chaise and put a cold flannel on my head!

Exactly! As if our dear PM hasn’t got enough on his plate with running the country without that Jezebel using her womanly wiles to distract him.

I wonder what Carrie thinks about all this?
Do you reckon he's getting the silent treatment at home?

MissAdventure

I wonder what Carrie thinks about all this?
Do you reckon he's getting the silent treatment at home?

Or all the dirty nappies to change?

Having his dinner slammed down on the table, and a barrier made out of pillows to stop any fraternising in the night..

This story sounds completely made up - and its in the Daily Mail, can't believe anyone is taking it seriously!

By being common is nothing to do with money or class, it’s how you conduct yourself. Lack of money is no barrier as I can assure you, my cousin raised by a single mother in the forties, had the good fortune to be raised by a strong woman, he was taught good manners and respect to people, treat people as he would like to be treated, always cleanly turned out, once you raise your voice you lose tge argument, it’s bullying, my aunt had pride in her home and dress, he went to state school, passed for grammar school, extended family clubbed together to buy his uniform, they had nothing but were generous with the little they had, wanted him to do well. He went to University, he now runs huge company and lives a very good lifestyle, in lovely area. My own two, I was poor, both did very well at state schools, one went on to get his own company, the other did equally well. What they did have was what my cousin had.

Grandmakath

Revolting woman. Will she stop at nothing?

who? Is this irony or ignorance?

I'm sitting here looking at my wee legs, which are frankly more Ernie Wise than Sharon Stone, and can't imagine weaponizing them.

Apart from the revolting misogyny of the article, the notion that the Prime Minister could be so nob-led by a colleague as to be actually distracted from his work - it's like something out of Carry On at your Convenience.

Allsorts

By being common is nothing to do with money or class, it’s how you conduct yourself. Lack of money is no barrier as I can assure you, my cousin raised by a single mother in the forties, had the good fortune to be raised by a strong woman, he was taught good manners and respect to people, treat people as he would like to be treated, always cleanly turned out, once you raise your voice you lose tge argument, it’s bullying, my aunt had pride in her home and dress, he went to state school, passed for grammar school, extended family clubbed together to buy his uniform, they had nothing but were generous with the little they had, wanted him to do well. He went to University, he now runs huge company and lives a very good lifestyle, in lovely area. My own two, I was poor, both did very well at state schools, one went on to get his own company, the other did equally well. What they did have was what my cousin had.

So what exactly is "being common"? Apart from being the opposite of people who think they have good manners and a means for looking down on people who don't follow the same kind of social code?

Urmstongran

And Keir Starmer does not know what a woman is so he is unable to comment.

oh for heavens' sake! I do remember you were one of the main posters getting terribly outraged when Ms Rayner told the truth called the Tories Scum, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised. On a sadder note, I hate to see posters who are self made, who have done well by their own efforts, turn on someone else who has done the same, all because she, and it is nearly always she, speaks differently.

Saetana

This story sounds completely made up - and its in the Daily Mail, can't believe anyone is taking it seriously!

But the Mail on Sunday "did" think it was a good to waste paper and ink on it and to plaster it all over the front page. Why would it do that? It must have thought its readers would lap it up.

MissA please stop it! You're making me laugh too much

GillT57

Urmstongran

And Keir Starmer does not know what a woman is so he is unable to comment.

oh for heavens' sake! I do remember you were one of the main posters getting terribly outraged when Ms Rayner told the truth called the Tories Scum, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised. On a sadder note, I hate to see posters who are self made, who have done well by their own efforts, turn on someone else who has done the same, all because she, and it is nearly always she, speaks differently.

And he did, of course comment, so it’s not true.

He said: “It is rank sexism, rank misogyny. She was really disgusted that all of her political attributes were put aside for this ridiculous, offensive story.

“She shouldn’t have to put up with it but all women in politics shouldn’t have to put up with it. Almost every woman in politics has had an element of this in some shape or form.

“We have got to change the culture. The culture in Parliament, it is sexist, it is misogynist. We need to change it.’

Quite right too.

Husband was privately educated at an “allegedly”good school and he hated every second. However when we had children a) we didn’t have any money and b) he said it would be the last thing he would ever do was to privately educate his children.
I like Angela Raynor - she doesn’t waffle, stutter or look out of her depth in the Commons. She has had to work extremely hard in life - unlike some.

Channel 4. News just reported that one if their journalists spoke to a Tory MP who said that he knew who had commented on Rayner to the DM. So it seems there is some truth that there is indeed a source.

This, from a journal I imagine many here would “hold their noses” at - and yet often speaks just common sense ( The Spectator):
Boris Johnson's government is often characterised as having a whiff of the 1990s 'back to basics' sleaze and sex scandals about it. Some appear to have taken this rather too literally and have taken us back to the films of that era, with the ludicrous briefing to yesterday's Mail on Sunday about Angela Rayner allegedly imitating Sharon Stone in the 1992 film Basic Instinct as a means of distracting the Prime Minister. All hell has naturally broken loose following the emergence of that story, with a series of developments of note this afternoon.
The first was that Boris Johnson made very clear he didn't associate himself with the anonymous claims that Labour's deputy leader was deliberately crossing and uncrossing her legs in the Commons, saying: 'I have to say I thought it was the most appalling load of sexist, misogynist tripe, and I immediately got in touch with Angela and we had a very friendly exchange.' He said he would unleash the 'terrors of the earth' - a reference to King Lear, just in case you hadn't had his excellent Oxford Union training that Rayner was apparently trying to compete with - against whoever had briefed the story. But it has led to another debate about sexism in parliament, with plenty of female MPs making clear that while they are furious with the story, they are not surprised, given the wider culture in Westminster.
The second big development was the Speaker Lindsay Hoyle announcing in the Commons that he would be summoning the editor of the Mail on Sunday to a meeting with the chair of press lobby. He said, in a statement at the start of the session: 'I share the view expressed by a wide range of Members – including, I believe, the Prime Minister – that yesterday’s article, which reported unsubstantiated claims, was misogynistic and offensive. That is what we believe. I express my sympathy to the right hon. Member for Ashton-under-Lyne for being subjected to this type of comment, which, in being demeaning and offensive to women in parliament, can only deter women who might be considering standing for election, to the detriment of us all.'……..
perhaps one grain of hope for women in Westminster is that very few people have bothered to defend the stupid briefing, either in its sexism or indeed in its daft assumption that Rayner really struggles in debate against Johnson.

So….whilst we all pretty much knew the Mail was a scurrilous rag, does no one else think that some progress has demonstrably been made when the CONSERVATIVE Party seeks to dissociate itself with it? Or would that kill the
“Tories are Evil Misogynists” line? And that “Anatomy of a Scandal” was very good TV, but not necessarily the attitude of Westminster today?

Whitewavemark2

Channel 4. News just reported that one if their journalists spoke to a Tory MP who said that he knew who had commented on Rayner to the DM. So it seems there is some truth that there is indeed a source.

Read it and weep.

She has a cracking pair of legs. Rachel Reeves probably does too.

Urmston, you’re plugging the tribal depths by suggesting Starmer can’t comment because he doesn’t know what a woman is. Starmer’s comments were concise and to the point. Misogyny, sexism, bullying, attempts to undermine female M.P’s is a well established pattern of behaviour in Westminster. If this disgusting episode pushes a bit towards change, it’s worth it.

MissAdventure - great posts on this, thank you ?

Revolting woman. Will she stop at nothing?

Who are you referring to?

Get a life ladies!!! Life is difficult and unfair. Just get on with it. I'm fed up with women complaining. Instead of complaining, get on with life, prove your worth and we'll all get there. Do I mind not getting a seat on a train and being pushed out of the way rushing for the train, being abused etc etc. just because a group of women want to be equal to men. Don't you get it? We are equal as human beings, we just have to prove our equality in other ways. If we are as strong and equal as we think, this shouldn't be a problem. Unfortunately, I'm old school and want to be feminine and a total female but if I do it correctly I can have the other benefits men have if I go the right way about it.