Keir and Angela’s drinks party

GrannyGravy13

volver

At the very least, Mr. Starmer has mislead the electorate and the media, just another day in the cesspit that is The Palace of Westminster

He hasn't though. And I'm really disappointed that you keep saying he did. I'm going to put it down to ennui.

So why has he said that it was a genuine mistake not to mention that Ms. Rayner was there his words not mine.

A mistake, we all make mistakes but in my experience when it comes from any politician it is more likely to be misleading by omission

I must point out that I am the at the stage that I really do not care if we are ruled by The bloody Wombles…

HE DIDN'T SAY IT. READ THE ARTICLE.

If you believe that, what else do you believe that isn't true?

Extract from an article in the Indy

Meanwhile the situation has got stickier when the Labour Party has admitted that Angela Rayner was with Kier Starmer at the event in question

The party acknowledged it had previously told journalists she was not at the event last year, but a source insisted it was a mistake in good faith^

Is the Indy a more trustable source than the DM?

The Labour Party. Keir Starmer.

Not the same thing.

Journalists. The Durham Police.

Not the same thing.

Guilt by association. Can't believe I'm having to explain this. I'm done.

Why did you only quote part GrannyGravy?

The Labour party both admitted the error and apologised. Keir Starmer is leaving those whose job it is to get on with it. As far as I can see there was no reason whatsoever that Keir Starmer would have been involved with the PR after the event. The third paragraph was:

A Labour spokesman said no Covid rules had been broken at the gathering, which took place in the Durham constituency office of the local MP.

So I would ask you again, why is missing someone's name off the people at an event at which nothing unlawful, dishonest or dishonourable happened so critical to you. No one lied.

So why has he said that it was a genuine mistake not to mention that Ms. Rayner was there his words not mine.

A mistake, we all make mistakes but in my experience when it comes from any politician it is more likely to be misleading by omission

God, this is really making me cross. Are you trying to wind us up, GG13.

Excuse me shouting, but, WHAT POSSIBLE REASON WOULD STARMER HAVE HAD TO DELIBERATELY OMIT THE NAME OF SOMEONE WHO WAS ABSOLUTELY ENTITLED TO BE IN THE GROUP?

I think you've been asked this before and you're just sliding past the question. Have you been taking lessons from Boris?

I do think the Wombles could certainly do a better job than the current shower...

GrannyGravy How do you turn "The party" acknowledging there was a mistake in the previous information to Starmer directly "misleading"?

There is, as far as I can see, only one person who is trying to mislead. How many extra votes do you think you got for Johnson and his "Con"servative Party, today?

Maizie If the only other choice was Tory I'm sure the Wombles would win - which is horrifying when you think about it.

Just so it’s clear - when Labour get caught out in a lie it’s an honest mistake made in good faith.
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That all right then.
Just one more thing. When it was originally denied that Rayner was there, why did she not immediately correct the lie as she most certainly knew where she was at the time.

Becuase she wasn't in the interview with the Daily Mail and when it came to light she corrected it.

Have any of you people ever thought of a career writing fiction?

Because, arrghh.

An honest mistake? AN HONEST MISTAKE???
Yes your honour I did say I saw an elephant but now know it was a mouse. It was an honest mistsake I assure you.

growstuff

Casdon

You shouldn’t laugh, but it broke here - look at the headline!
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10764839/Keir-Starmer-flouted-Covid-lockdown-guidance-birthday-bash-TWO-cakes.html

I'm a bit confused here. What date are we talking about? Starmer's birthday is on 2 September, when England wasn't in lockdown.

Exactly, Keir’s birthday is on 2nd September growstuff. At that time it was permitted for gatherings of this kind. The Mail is trying to say this is the same as Boris’s birthday party at the height of the lockdown in June. And to compound it, he had TWO cakes, not just one like Boris. Honestly, if their reporters weren’t mad they would be dangerous.

I'm just trying to decide if this is satire or not.

He's not being serious, is he?

It’s nauseating to see attempts to compare on work meeting with the shenanigans in 10 Downing street

10 Downing Street is just an office, a workplace for lots of people.

Urmstongran

Just so it’s clear - when Labour get caught out in a lie it’s an honest mistake made in good faith.
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That all right then.
Just one more thing. When it was originally denied that Rayner was there, why did she not immediately correct the lie as she most certainly knew where she was at the time.

Who "denied" it Urmstongran. I know you don't "do facts" but you are throwing accusations around and need to back them up.

Iam64

It’s nauseating to see attempts to compare on work meeting with the shenanigans in 10 Downing street

I would say that is a good summary Iam. I am afraid the lies flying around the thread are equally sickening.

I don't get why they do it though. All that has happened with the attack on Angela's legs was Conservative women took umbrage and turned on their own.

What on earth revelations/floor crossings or turning on Johnson are likely to happen if the 'just and true' (there are two left, I believe) turn on their party in the same way. Not every Conservative is quite as vituperous as some on here.

I have already voted in the local election but not for Labour. More of this and that is definitely where my vote will go in the GE.

Aveline

10 Downing Street is just an office, a workplace for lots of people.

Are you just winding people up or shall we just assume the level of your knowledge from that comment?

I haven't read this for a few days but it seems that the Tory/Brexit/Johnson supporters are out in force. 100% for effort - wasted.

Not winding people up. Just displaying some knowledge that seems to elude some.

Aveline

Not winding people up. Just displaying some knowledge that seems to elude some.

What knowledge is that?

But you’re wrong Aveline. Until a couple of weeks ago 10 Downing Street was also the residence of the Chancellor of the Exchequer and his family - everybody must remember his departure surely, it was all over the news.

Aveline

Not winding people up. Just displaying some knowledge that seems to elude some.

What knowledge is eluding some?

We all know, surely, that there is a a large number of offices over the Downing St site, which encompasses No 10, No 11 and other adjoining buildings.

What is your point?

We also know that Nos. 10 & 11 contain the rent free flats in which the PM and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, respectively, live.

So, again, what is your point, Aveline?

My point is that No10 Downing Street is a workplace. There is also a flat on the top floor. Scroll back over the previous posts and you'll (probably) get my point.

In my entire working life, no "office" I ever worked in had a beer fridge or a raucous party which destroyed children's toys or woke the neighbours sleeping upstairs.

We had a BBQ in the car park once.

What have I been missing?