Roe v Wade

The mother’s right trumps ( excuse the pun) the foetus.

I have never voted because I have absolutely no faith in any MP

silverlining I don't agree

You arent engaging in anything like a debate, you are repeating the same thing over and over so perhaps look at your own posting style before criticising myself and volver. I am pro choice but am happy to have conversations with those who hold different views, but you arent actually engaging in debate.

For heaven’s sake Theodora at 20 weeks a baby is incapable of surviving outside the womb. I assume you are Catholic (as is my husband but thankfully without the extreme views)?

I feel I am I have 3xplained why I am against abortion and added a video showing wat a fetus looks like at 20 weeks

I am very much entitled to my operand no rudeness will make me change my mind

Yes, we all know what it looks like - that doesn't mean it is capable of surviving outside the mother's womb. You can't simply twist scientific facts to suit your own agenda.

That's rubbish
The video which is FACT clearly shows a loving breathing fully formed baby

You have been fairly rude yourself, I am pretty sure you can hold your own, so to speak.

As Abortion is the murder of her child by her mother, the millions of babies that have been thus killed constitutes a genocide. It is a genocide that has been normalised. It is murder that is acceptable because 'women's rights to fornicate freely trumps this group of human's right to live. I am delighted that there will now be conversation and discussion about this subject. P.S. I'm a lifelong feminist.

I feel that I don't want to continue here because people don't value human life especially in the UK

English people have the reputation that they love their dogs more than they love their children

TheodoraP

I have never voted because I have absolutely no faith in any MP

How extraordinary. Then you have no interest in trying to change the abortion law by vote, because that is the only way you will.

Most odd.

TheodoraP

That's rubbish
The video which is FACT clearly shows a loving breathing fully formed baby

No it does not. A baby in the womb is not breathing. As I said, you cannot simply twist scientific facts to suit your own agenda. No baby has been born at 20 weeks and survived. That is fact.

TheodoraP

Blondiescot I appreciate what you are saying totally but is it the baby's fault that he or she was conceived in that way, should the baby be punished by not be given a chance to live, what about children that have rapists as Fathers should they take the blame for their Fathers actions

Are you really advocating that the victims of rape and incest should be forced to give birth?

Are you saying that they should have nor recourse to a legal abortion - because it doesn't sit well with your beliefs?

You want to take away every shred of autonomy that a woman - or often, a mere girl - has over her own body... a body that has already been abused - in some instances, many times?

What gives you that right? Why does your belief override anyone else's?

Contraception is also a means of preventing a "chance at life" - perhaps you'd also like to ask the sperm and egg what they think about being prevented from meeting? Because it makes about as much sense as asking an "unborn baby" this hypothetical question about what they'd prefer.

TheodoraP

I feel that I don't want to continue here because people don't value human life especially in the UK

Ah, not from the U.K. then?

GrammyGrammy

As Abortion is the murder of her child by her mother, the millions of babies that have been thus killed constitutes a genocide. It is a genocide that has been normalised. It is murder that is acceptable because 'women's rights to fornicate freely trumps this group of human's right to live. I am delighted that there will now be conversation and discussion about this subject. P.S. I'm a lifelong feminist.

'Fornicate'? Are you for real? What about women who have been raped, for instance?

There are topics that even I won't get involved with, and I'm no shrinking violet. This is one of them.

Bye from me, (not English, no dogs, no children )

If a woman really cannot go ahead with a pregnancy, she will find a way to end it. That has always been true, for centuries and longer than that. There is always a friend who knows someone who can fix it, using some age-old method or supposed combination of substances - at great risk to her own life or her future fertility. If she can't find a solution, she will end the pregnancy by ending her own life.

GrammyGrammy

As Abortion is the murder of her child by her mother, the millions of babies that have been thus killed constitutes a genocide. It is a genocide that has been normalised. It is murder that is acceptable because 'women's rights to fornicate freely trumps this group of human's right to live. I am delighted that there will now be conversation and discussion about this subject. P.S. I'm a lifelong feminist.

Yet another one. How can you possibly claim to be a feminist? It beggars belief.

Elegran

If a woman really cannot go ahead with a pregnancy, she will find a way to end it. That has always been true, for centuries and longer than that. There is always a friend who knows someone who can fix it, using some age-old method or supposed combination of substances - at great risk to her own life or her future fertility. If she can't find a solution, she will end the pregnancy by ending her own life.

How true that is.

TheodoraP

Try saying that this is not a fully formed living Breathing baby

I am sorry to say that abortion is nothing other than selfish murder

What a wicked thing to say.

I have just read an excellent suggestion.

All men who do not believe in abortion should undergo vasectomies in order to ensure an abortion need never take place under their watch

If you really don’t like the idea of abortion & think it’s awful, fine, don’t have one!
But please do not stop other women having access to a safe & legal procedure.