The loss of freedom of speech, of sidelining women and biology

From my nursery rhyme book, eighty years ago -

"Pudding and pie",
said Jane. "Oh my!"
"Which would you rather?"
asked her father.
"Both!", said Jane,
Quite bold and plain.

If they want to win by cheating-that’s for their conscience to deal with, if they have one. They obviously have no consideration for the AHF they aspire to be. They’ll get a lot of praise from others who don’t see cheating to win as a problem either.

FarNorth

Recent men's champion! So depressing.

"Transgender surfer Sasha Jane Lowerson has claimed a historic victory in WA, having been crowned men’s champion three years earlier."

www.news.com.au/sport/more-sports/transgender-surfer-sasha-jane-lowerson-claims-historic-victory-in-wa-longboard-championships/news-story/305dd76b3e65344d2cb8bdce45fb3824

I wonder if they get any satisfaction from winning, even though they know they won through cheating.?

A private GP prescribing trans drugs to a 9 year old:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10833739/Doctor-wrongly-prescribed-sex-change-treatments-seven-transgender-patients.html?

I wonder if they get any satisfaction from winning, even though they know they won through cheating.?

I suspect that the prize money might compensate for any giggles of conscience they might have.

And just for some light relief, Durham's town mayoral teddy bear has "announced" that s/he is now non binary....?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10838227/Darlington-mayors-teddy-bear-sparks-gender-row-cuddly-toy-announces-non-binary.html

Non binary, when will this madness end. It’s like the Kings New Clothes. If it wasn’t so serious it would be funny yet these people believe what they say.

The teacher, of the girl bullied out of school, has written an article about it for the DM:

"An 18-year-old pupil who dared to question the ideology was surrounded and shouted at by a group of fellow sixth formers in an incident that forced her to leave the school.

Her crime? To suggest to a visiting baroness from the House of Lords that transgender-sceptical views, such as the belief that biological sex is real, deserve balanced debate.

It was probably naïve of the girl not to realise that to disagree, however respectfully, with transgender ideology is not allowed in much of our education system today. To question its basic tenets is heresy and heretics need to be exposed, attacked and got rid of. Even if they are such notable figures as J.K.Rowling. These tenets sometimes include the trans language that women are 'uterus havers', 'people with vaginas', or 'chest-feeders'. And the concept that the birth sex of male and female is a myth.

After daring to challenge the baroness, who had joined a sixth form transgender rights' discussion, up to 60 other pupils gathered round the girl and verbally attacked her.

They screamed abuse so loudly that she ran away from them to escape, before collapsing unable to breathe properly with the shock of it all. By the next day, tales about the incident spread down to lower years. I was told by one of my younger pupils during an individual lesson that a sixth form girl had been saying horrible transphobic things."

Poor girl, and shame on the college for not taking action against the attackers. ?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10838801/The-sixth-form-girl-bullied-school-saying-biological-sex-real.html

I really feel for her, but that article, shows what can happen if schools go with the ‘only trans are allowed a voice’. That girl was not allowed into the classroom if she said anything provocative- but was there any such rule for the groups who were equally provocative towards her?

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Another sportswoman speaking up and taking action.

This is nothing to do with Trans issues but everything to do with free speech.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10838787/The-cancelled-arts-lecturer-dared-use-phrase-dreaded-Meghan-Zoom-tutorial.html

There is a reliance on women in sex-categorised sports being too "nice" to speak up at the time and make a fuss, and on women "not being a sport" unless they bite their tongue on the fact that the "ref's decision" is not, as has always been drummed into them, a fair and considered one.

Not just the "ref" but also the team selectors and those who formulate the rules of the sport have been suborned by Stonewall and other organisations into promoting the ambitions of men over those of women

Under the law, they can exclude all but women (in the original meaning of that much-abused word) from competing together - but too many of them don't use this power.

If I was still involved in competitive sport and a man turned up competing as a woman I would refuse to compete.
I wish other sportswomen would do the same. It's a mad world these days.

It's the utter vindictiveness of these cases that is so apparent. Soon people will be confined to "name, rank and serial number" only to avoid the vaguest possibility of giving offence and being cancelled.

That reply was to MerylStreep

As Taylor Silverman makes clear, the opportunity to win money can be an important factor, meaning women won't want to withdraw altogether.

And of course sporting scholarships in the USA for example, rely on participation. Those females can't afford to exercise their right to fair treatment.

I wonder what happened to the TW and "woke" mantra of always being kind?

None of it sounds very kind, so it seems kindness is only granted if a person blindly agrees to everything they say - even when it's arrant nonsense.?

It doesn't matter how many tantrums Trans and supporters have - there are still only two biological sexes. And they are different.

Biological men cannot menstruate or give birth.

Biological women do not have a "natural" penis.

And the la-la land of theories, that suggests this no longer is the case, cannot overrule Mother Nature.?

The result in sport of saying that adult human males are adult human females and can compete in sex-categorised events is a foregone conclusion - there will be no point in real women attempting to take part competitively at all in some kinds of sport. That has been very clearly shown recently. That makes those sports inclusive for mediocre men, but exclusive for women. So they will stay away, or stick to being the cheerleaders doing line dancing in short skirts.

If all sportswomen boycotted events that allowed male participants that would stop those events going ahead altogether and force a major rethink by organisers.

Talk about having your cake and eating it. A peer who is a transwoman is still being allowed to keep their title which goes down through the male line. ?

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/05/20/first-trans-peer-step-closer-hereditary-candidate-claims-seat/

But, but, but she's an actual woman now, a member of the female sex, it says so on her certificate............ They know he's really still male sex, a man, and couldn't show they know the truth more clearly!

That was always the case, legally, because we can't have any male being disadvantaged by this rubbish, can we?
But women? Shove up and be kind.

I can't see the article because of a paywall but took this quote from Mumsnet -

""...And in what the source close to the process described as an “irony”, she [Matilda Simon] has a sister born two years earlier.

“If the title had been inheritable by a woman, it would have gone to Margaret, the older sister, rather than the younger sister,” he said...""

Even more

Men can’t ‘know’ they are a woman unless they buy in to a narrow definition of what that means - and as a biological woman I don’t know the answer to that, as generations of feminists fought to blur gender boundaries. The same applies to women ’knowing’ they are men, of course.

It’s bad enough now, but when the misogynists get their way and the definition of womanhood is whatever they have decided it is, our granddaughters will be living more restricted lives than out grandmothers. It will be as though we hadn’t bothered and the past 120 years of fighting were for nothing.