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Whitewavemark2 Tue 31-May-22 07:58:23

This ?

We must wait and see.

Russ Jones

I'm hearing 54 letters have been handed in, and a confidence vote in Johnson is likely in early June. Rumour. But solid source.

If so, I suspect Johnson will push for the confidence vote immediately, so it happens before by-elections. And he'll survive. Weak. But survive

Oldnproud Mon 06-Jun-22 15:23:41

LizzieDrip

^In many respects, I wish the controversy wasn't so focussed on the illegal gatherings but focussed more on a long career based on deception^

I agree! The man is a long-term serial liar - proven, over many years, to be deeply untrustworthy, in both his private and professional lives. He is a flawed character, yet the Tories elected him as their leader knowing this. He does not deserve to lead this country. I suppose ‘Partygate’ has become the final straw but, I too, wish people would focus on the bigger picture of Johnson’s lies stretching back many, many years.

I agree too.

DaisyAnne Mon 06-Jun-22 15:41:26

This is a document said to have been passed around by Tory MPs with arguments for getting rid of Johnson. Adam Payne, on twitter says:

Tory MPs who want Johnson out have this weekend been circulating a briefing document setting out why. It warns the party is on course to lose the next election & concludes “the only way to end this misery, earn a hearing from the British public… is to remove Boris Johnson as PM”

For those who have twitter it is twitter.com/adampayne26/status/153347683686017025 here]]

Interestingly, it's all about what happens to the Party, not the country.

Grantanow Mon 06-Jun-22 17:45:22

I fear he will survive for want of anything better and lack of Tory spines but he is just about the worst we have ever had. If my MP votes for him I won't be voting for my MP again!

growstuff Mon 06-Jun-22 19:18:08

It's a secret ballot, so unless there's a leak or your MP comes clean, you won't know how he/she has voted.

Casdon Mon 06-Jun-22 19:25:29

growstuff

It's a secret ballot, so unless there's a leak or your MP comes clean, you won't know how he/she has voted.

Most MPs do seem to be stating which way they are voting though - presumably because they feel their constituents want and deserve to know. It will be interesting to see if there’s a mismatch between what they say and what they vote.

CaravanSerai Mon 06-Jun-22 19:25:42

True growstuff. What they say publicly and what they do in secret may differ.

Sky reported earlier that 130 MPs have remained silent on their intentions.

Also, Professor Vernon Bogdanor, King's College London said earlier that if Johnson win's tonight's vote but divides the party so much that it proves hard to govern, that the 1922 Committee can change the rules so have another vote before another year has passed.

growstuff Mon 06-Jun-22 19:30:04

Casdon

growstuff

It's a secret ballot, so unless there's a leak or your MP comes clean, you won't know how he/she has voted.

Most MPs do seem to be stating which way they are voting though - presumably because they feel their constituents want and deserve to know. It will be interesting to see if there’s a mismatch between what they say and what they vote.

I've been reading the comments on my local Facebook page. Apart from a couple of diehard Conservatives, every one of hundreds of comments want Johnson to resign, which contradicts the MP's tweet. She also said that she spoke with constituents at the weekend, but nobody spotted her at any of the Jubilee events which took place, so I don't know where she met them. Presumably, she thinks her 30,000 majority is safe!

DaisyAnne Mon 06-Jun-22 21:20:20

The 148 is at the highest end of what most commentators and rebels expected.

MayBee70 Mon 06-Jun-22 21:22:53

Dead man walking…

Whitewavemark2 Mon 06-Jun-22 21:27:47

Yes, and in a way what is more impressive is that this was not an organised campaign.

CaravanSerai Mon 06-Jun-22 21:37:04

I agree. This was not, as some Johnson allies claim, an organised coup rallying behind a designated challenger. 148 Tory MPs would rather have anyone else and that's damning.

DaisyAnne Mon 06-Jun-22 21:43:24

I agree Whitewave. I think it will come as a surprise to all, even those who voted against him.

PMQs will be interesting. Keir Starmer's address was a strong one. Just watching Johnson on Sky. Not good. Then the two byelections next week.

25Avalon Mon 06-Jun-22 22:07:52

Knowing the Tory party they will close ranks and consolidate their policies before the next General Election. I can’t however see Boris leading them into the next election. Looking at the votes he had 59% tonight, compared with 66% when he came to power which is food for thought.