Rwanda

Rwanda not a good idea but it won’t happen, The question that needs addressing, but no one will, why do Asylum Seekers, travel through many safe countries, to get here! I think you can only jump up and down about accepting everyone if you house them yourself, it not up to someone else.. There is a housing shortage, people struggling to feed families, living in sub standard accommodation as we have seen, some of them 20 years. It’s not realistic to keep taking them. It’s less for everyone of us in the end, lots bottom of the pile here already, trying to survive.

When this government falls, I hope the truth of everything finally comes out as I think it will finish the Tories for ever.

It is so sad because the Conservative party has been infiltrated by such a lot of far right activists. If I was a Tory supporter I would want to see a complete clear out of these people and the honourable, paternalistic political, party I grew up with claim once again the Conservative party.

DiamondLily

Whatever the rights and wrongs, Prince Charles should stay right out of it.

He should take a lesson from his mother - do not involve royalty in government decisions.

As a side issue, has Charles offered up any accommodation to help with all this? ?

I disagree with you there.

Charles learnt from his mum to keep quiet and we've ended up with a Head of State that does nothing when disastrous things happen to this country. We all stand around waving flags and gushing over children while the government of the day breaks international law and ruins this future of this country.

Well if the future Head of State would make it clear that the heart of this nation is not in the way that the government is acting, that would be a good thing and I would respect him for it.

volver

DiamondLily

Whatever the rights and wrongs, Prince Charles should stay right out of it.

He should take a lesson from his mother - do not involve royalty in government decisions.

As a side issue, has Charles offered up any accommodation to help with all this? ?

I disagree with you there.

Charles learnt from his mum to keep quiet and we've ended up with a Head of State that does nothing when disastrous things happen to this country. We all stand around waving flags and gushing over children while the government of the day breaks international law and ruins this future of this country.

Well if the future Head of State would make it clear that the heart of this nation is not in the way that the government is acting, that would be a good thing and I would respect him for it.

I think Prince Charles knew exactly what he was doing. He has to remain ostensibly politically neutral, but getting his message out through ‘a source’ has worked.

They're being given anti-malarial tablets - all heart this government.

Well if the future Head of State would make it clear that the heart of this nation is not in the way that the government is acting, that would be a good thing and I would respect him for it.

Agree.

Riverwalk

They're being given anti-malarial tablets - all heart this government.

What about necessary injections? What if they fall ill? Who is responsible for their care?

FannyCornforth

I’ve heard (radio phone in, so could be bobbins) that the arrangement is reciprocal; in that the UK will be receiving some of Rwanda’s immigrants.
And that it’s nowhere as simple an arrangement as we’re led to believe.
Has anyone heard similar?

Yet Rwanda has created, and continues to create, countless refugees of its own. At least 287,000 Rwandans live outside the country, having fled from the regime of President Paul Kagame – and it is estimated the figure could be as high as one million.

inews.co.uk/news/world/rwanda-uk-asylum-refugees-first-flight-1672249

It's just farcical.

Callistemon21

FannyCornforth

I’ve heard (radio phone in, so could be bobbins) that the arrangement is reciprocal; in that the UK will be receiving some of Rwanda’s immigrants.
And that it’s nowhere as simple an arrangement as we’re led to believe.
Has anyone heard similar?

Yet Rwanda has created, and continues to create, countless refugees of its own. At least 287,000 Rwandans live outside the country, having fled from the regime of President Paul Kagame – and it is estimated the figure could be as high as one million.

inews.co.uk/news/world/rwanda-uk-asylum-refugees-first-flight-1672249

It's just farcical.

It’s like a pantomime

When we have so many jobs we cannot fill and our care system and hospitality industry are falling apart why can't refugees stay here?

Actually I think the agreement includes the U.K. taking in Rwandan refugees. So perhaps they may like to build a life here.

Utter insanity

“Refugee Council reckons the Rwanda scheme will cost taxpayers £1.4 billion a year. Quite on top of the nasty, immoral nature of it that's a hell of a lot of money to placate some racists.”

Pity we couldn't spend the £1.4 billion on sensible schemes for applying to come here and on resettlement.

Everything crossed for the hearing today.

It was going to be 135 on the plane, now it’s 35, all of whom have legal challenges. Would they still send them when it gets down to single figures? is it worth the cost of the aircraft? The U.k. could set up centres in France to hear migrants claims - the French have offered - why don’t they do that? Oh no, that would seem too humane.

Staff like flight attendants etc are worried that they are being asked to take part in what has been announced as breaking international law.

I wish the flight was on an Army plane from Brize Norton. That would be better in my opinion.

Why, Urnstongran? I don't understand why??

It seems to be inhumane and probably illegal so I can't see it makes it any better (or more legal) flying from an army base?
It just means that the armed forces are potentially doing something illegal instead of a commercial company.

Vegansrock - they probably don't want anyone coming here so making a safe and legal route is obviously not on the agenda.

What have these people done to promote such harsh treatment?

They are not criminals.

Care4Calais

Today I had the most amazing phone call. A man who has suffered the worst torture I have ever had described to me has just had his ticket to Rwanda cancelled. For at least ten minutes we have both cried on the phone with total happiness and relief.

I gather the number is gradually being whittled down to "single figures" and might be 0. Well - there's another failed policy. I wonder how much money has been paid out to Rwanda and we will not see again. [finger-down-throat icon]

Appeal court judges refuse to stop tomorrow’s flight to Rwanda.

The racists must be so pleased!

Last count, of the 37 people initially earmarked for the flight, 29 of them had launched successful legal appeals. Eight to go.