Rwanda

Sorry - that's 31, 23, but still eight.

If Patel had had her way without any court case, those people would have been transported to Rwanda with no right of return. And yet they are innocent if any crime.

Don’t forget that this judgement does not mean that the policy is lawful. That case has yet to be judged - July I think.

I’m a bit confused as to what has actually happened. Is the plane going tomorrow or is there going to be another appeal? It all sounds very complicated.

Luckily there's a full hearing next month on whether the policy is actually legal or not. If not (as many of us expect) I hope these eight are brought back and are given the chance to prove their cases and are compensated.
Then we should draw a line under this shameful policy and start to process asylum requests properly.

It's a very expensive vanity project for Priti Patel and Johnson's right-wing it seems to me.

The plane is going tomorrow MawBee. There is another judicial review though next month. Today’s appeal by the charities involved failed to win their case. The flight sends a strong message to migrants arriving by rubber dinghies. The optics are important now as the flight will take off.

16:56Whitewavemark2

How very naive how do you know these mostly fit young men are not guilty of any crimes they might have thrown away their id papers or paid for forged ones they knew enough to pay the smuggler gangs thousands of euros for the dinghy crossing. They could be murderers, rapists.

17:10Urmstongran

Let's hope so, although the so called human rights lawyers won't like it, no illegals no legal aid cash, ain't that the truth.

The optics.

Give me strength.

Let’s not forget that this scheme Is not to send the real refugees who are escaping persecution. It’s aim to to simply stop the unlimited illegal numbers of people who are arriving here daily. They are paying into this illegal business, they are told to throw away their passports so that they cannot be returned to their home country, if you study the people arriving on the beaches can you honestly say that they look poor or I’ll treated. how many can this country reasonably be expected to accommodate going forward. My sympathy will always go to real refugees, but not to these people who do the true refugees such an injustice. We need to stop this and if they think that they will be sent elsewhere then it may stop this illegal trade

Excellent news. Even if it was only one migrant it proves the point. We can build on this until it’s totally obvious that giving a people smuggler thousands ££s to get you to the Uk, assuming you don’t drown, is pointless.

Word will filter through now.

Try iron tablets volver?

Urmstongran

Excellent news. Even if it was only one migrant it proves the point. We can build on this until it’s totally obvious that giving a people smuggler thousands ££s to get you to the Uk, assuming you don’t drown, is pointless.

Word will filter through now.

Completely agree.

Why can we not establish centers to investigate these people while they are in France?

Imagine a scenario where a bomb is dropped on the UK. Not widely beyond’s the bounds of possibility at present, and we and ours are fleeing in boats across the Channel only to be met by the French equivalent of Patel?
“No! You are not members of the EU. we do not want you immigrants. Off you go to Rwanda…….

MayBee70

I’m a bit confused as to what has actually happened. Is the plane going tomorrow or is there going to be another appeal? It all sounds very complicated.

The plane is flying tomorrow (allegedly a Privilege Style from Stansted) with 8 refugees on board, unless any more have tickets cancelled in the next 24 hours.

biglouis

Why can we not establish centers to investigate these people while they are in France?

Because the idea is to "punish" them.

To deter them.

Such a small percentage of the number of people originally destined to be on that plane are travelling. The message will be that the vast majority will get through. Do you really think it will work as a deterrent?

Nobody every answers the question - why do we want to deter these people who could if the proper channels were available benefit our economy given the opportunity? Surely setting up proper channels can't be more expensive than the torrent of money being poured into this Rwanda plan.

Totally agree with Urstongran and others. If this policy can deter these mostly fit young men and the evil traffickers then it must be a good thing. Bombs have dropped on this country in the past and no one I've ever heard of attempted to cross the Channel in order to escape tbem. If this imaginary bomb were a nuclear one, then escaping wouldn't be an option whichever side of the channel you lived!!

RichmondPark

Such a small percentage of the number of people originally destined to be on that plane are travelling. The message will be that the vast majority will get through. Do you really think it will work as a deterrent?

Nobody every answers the question - why do we want to deter these people who could if the proper channels were available benefit our economy given the opportunity? Surely setting up proper channels can't be more expensive than the torrent of money being poured into this Rwanda plan.

They simply want to appease the racists, and it is clearly working judging by the comments I’ve seen on social media.

No other country would tolerate these endless appeals. Going forward ‘the vast majority’ will be on those planes as the government will be mindful where the loopholes are. They will select future migrants that align in circumstances with the 11 going tomorrow until that happens.

Nobody every answers the question - why do we want to deter these people who could if the proper channels were available benefit our economy given the opportunity?

Why do you think, RichmondPark?.

Why did all the refugee haters vote leave? Same reason for both... it begins with 'xen...

Bombs have dropped on this country in the past and no one I've ever heard of attempted to cross the Channel in order to escape tbem.

That is probably because the people dropping the bombs were occupying France and bombs were also falling across most of the rest of Europe.