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Whitewavemark2 Thu 02-Jun-22 10:32:53

It seems that the Home Secretary is willing to send people who having spent their recent lives escaping war are now to find themselves forcibly transported to a country now at war with its neighbour.

What is the matter with Patel?

DaisyAnne Sun 19-Jun-22 08:14:44

volver

Question Time audience member last night: Labour have no policies.

Thangam Debonnaire lists half a dozen policies.

Same audience member: But Labour have no policies.

The problem is that people can't seem to see when they are being led by the nose. This Tory party - the same thing that happened in Australia and the US - will treat the electorate like pigs with rings through their noses. Does anyone really think the people reaching our shores in boats are our biggest problem? Of course, they are not.

We have a lying PM leading a government corrupt enough to let him play with their policy for his own reward. A government with no real plan to do the things they promised, such as "levelling-up" or "Brexit". Has anything real happened with these catch-alls?

So they find the nose ring they can pull on. It could be xenophobia; racism or even the fear the Conservatives have built up about our "boarders" being breached. Do they use the normal ways - that work - of dealing with these lesser problems? Of course not. They need the ways that will grab the headlines. In Australia, they made people so fearful of their borders being breached that the electorate agree to exclude their own citizens from returning home.

And now the man who made this happen in Australia is attending Johnson's morning meetings. He is using the same playbook. Has Johnson done anything to make things better for the citizens of this country - No! Are there better, less contentious ways to deal with people claiming asylum? Of course, there are. But they don't put excitement into boring lives, do they?

But this is not about what is best for the country. It is the dictator's move to find what people fear most - not the poverty of others apparently - and pulling on that ring. They only want power and they know those who respond to the pull on the ring will not ask what they want to do with it.

We got rid of Domonic Cummings. The Australians got rid of Lyton Crossby (and the Prime Minister he was running). Now it seems we have a swop and Australia have sent us their Domonic Cummings. Is that really who we want to lead the country?

MaizieD Sun 19-Jun-22 09:28:38

Good post, DaisyAnne ?

Worthy of its own thread...

Luckygirl3 Sun 19-Jun-22 09:46:43

I fine it all deeply despairing. But there is no way of stopping this that I can see, except via the ballot box - and look where that has got us.

I know many delightful people who vote Tory - kind, philanthropic etc. - but they just cannot see what is happening.

Thank god my Tory MP has laid his cards on the table as to what he thinks about BJ and is equally appalled by all this. A small step in the right direction.

Grantanow Sun 19-Jun-22 11:17:11

Disgraceful. Rwanda is barely a democracy. The whole thing is an attempt to whip up public support for the Tories based on immigration fears. Why isn't Johnson putting the healthy young immigrants into the 1.3 million job vacancies with suitable training. Many of them are well educated and have a can do attitude. They are not scroungers. It's another dead cat on the table.

silverlining48 Mon 20-Jun-22 09:49:00

When I think of Rwanda the words genocide and massacre come to mind. It wasn’t long ago. How on Earth can this ever be seen as ‘ok’.

sweetpea Thu 23-Jun-22 18:06:42

Why, oh why has our ‘esteemed’ PM gone off to Rwanda today accompanied by his wife? What useful purpose is he, and indeed is she, in the scheme of things?

MaizieD Thu 23-Jun-22 18:08:51

sweetpea

Why, oh why has our ‘esteemed’ PM gone off to Rwanda today accompanied by his wife? What useful purpose is he, and indeed is she, in the scheme of things?

It's for a Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting. Prince Charles is there, too, on behalf of the Queen.

MawtheMerrier Thu 23-Jun-22 19:29:02

(Perhaps they are first of Priti Patel’s deportees as she moves into attack as the next PM?)

MaizieD Thu 23-Jun-22 19:57:01

MawtheMerrier

(Perhaps they are first of Priti Patel’s deportees as she moves into attack as the next PM?)

????

All four of them?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-Jun-22 16:16:15

I see Johnson has said that Ukrainians will be sent to Rwanda if they arrive in the U.K. “illegally”

Wrong on so many levels.

MaizieD Fri 24-Jun-22 16:27:02

Whitewavemark2

I see Johnson has said that Ukrainians will be sent to Rwanda if they arrive in the U.K. “illegally”

Wrong on so many levels.

Cor!

I wonder if he's told his bestie Zelensky that...

Callistemon21 Fri 24-Jun-22 16:31:10

He has moral disengagement amongst other problems.

Chocolatelovinggran Fri 24-Jun-22 17:20:55

BJ seems very happy there. Perhaps he'll stay. I understand it's a really good place - Mr Johnson says so...

silverlining48 Fri 24-Jun-22 19:54:28

Think hes happy to be out of the way fir the next 10 days hoping it will all be peace and calm when he returns,

Iam64 Fri 24-Jun-22 20:11:41

Chocolatelovinggran

BJ seems very happy there. Perhaps he'll stay. I understand it's a really good place - Mr Johnson says so...

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