Speaking the truth about brexit

Urmstongran

I like how GB News invites people from both sides of any debate, does not interrupt them (that’s a rarity in itself, some other channels just can’t help themselves - I’m looking at you Kay Burley and you Murthy) and then viewers can be impartiality informed.

Re Brexit:
Messieurs Darmanian and Macron - two justifications right there for Brexit. I am baffled by people in this country who still want to be part of the EU. Do they have no self-respect? Or do they have a freakish liking of being disrespected by serial Brit-haters? It’s time the UK stood up to be counted. They keep pushing, we cave. I wonder - is the time coming to invoke Article 16? We have been very patient as a country but eventually if no progress is forthcoming something needs to be done to make headway with Brexit.

It is very hard and baffling to read such posts. Almost beyond belief.

GB News inform impartially? Just like Fox News.

Ten reasons brexit has been a disaster for Britain

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/03/spiralling-inflation-crops-left-in-the-field-and-travel-chaos-10-reasons-brexit-has-been-disastrous-for-britain

Before and after comments by the Leave liars

twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1554726640864870400?t=w5LSU933IkCSgNMugwOtNQ&s=19

That twitter feed says it all.

Urmstongram Are you still singing the praises of Lord David Frost?

Scottish salmon exports to France cannot survive Dover queues caused by brexit

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/scottish-salmon-industry-urges-ministers-to-act-over-dover-delays

Membership of the Eu cost about £45 per head per year - much was made of how we could save all this money and improve the NHS. Many voted believing this. Brexit has so far cost over £4500 per head…

'Ciaran the euro courier' explains why he's finally given up his once thriving courier business:

I’ll conclude : my time to pretty give up came 3 years ago when I had my accident coupled with brexit which has killed off exports . It’s killed off express moments of goods from the U.K. to the EU . It’s simply not worth it anymore . Well done to Boris Johnson and the lies

Two weeks ago I spent the night in customs arguing the toss with the douane . In January spent 16 hours in Calais waiting for paperwork . Driver spent 30 hours in Ashford . I waited a week for a commodity code to be found . It’s becoming to frequent and it grinds you down

twitter.com/vanmaneuro/status/1555088388071514113

Thread and comments are worth a read.

Of the 10 most productive countries countries in the world, 7 are in the EU, 2 are aligned with the EU, so follow their rules and regulations. The U.K. was in the top 10 when it was an EU member, but now is way down the list. Could it be that the EU rules and regulations , which we were told held the U.K. back , did no such thing? Couldn’t be a big fat lie could it? Why do these EU members thrive with all that red tape , and the U.K. economy, with all those “freedoms” is going down the pan?

'all that red tape' - where? And that is the whole point- people coming in and out of other countries in Europe have none! Simple.

Must admit, Water Companies must be so glad they got rid of all the red tape- which means can can pour raw sewage in rivers and seas without blinking an eye- how wonderful.

Brexit has been a disaster and was chiefly a vehicle for our lying Prime Minister to get elected. Apart from the ridiculous argument about sovereignty what benefit has Brexit brought? Rees-Mogg, the laughably-entitled Minister for Brexit Opportunities, moved his finance business to Dublin to stay in the EU single market. Says it all. Michael Heseltine is right: we need to rejoin.

The "minister for brexit opportunities" was so incapable of identifying any "brexit opportunities"that he had to appeal to the readers of The Sun to let him know if they had spotted any.

So far - nothing that I've heard of.

The Brexit effect

Just one story

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-62439279

Phone networks are taking advantage of post-Brexit deregulation to baffle customers into racking up large roaming bills on EU holidays, consumer rights champion Martin Lewis has warned.

At the end of June, a range of consumer protections that had been introduced after Brexit expired. As a result, phone networks are no longer required to send customers a message with pricing details when they begin roaming, nor to cap the maximum data roaming fees that can be charged monthly. Networks also no longer need to provide protections against inadvertent roaming.

In an age of data-hungry smartphones, consumers can build up huge bills in a matter of minutes without even being aware they are using their phone at all, as apps connect to the internet to check for updates after a flight or during a journey.

www.theguardian.com/money/2022/aug/08/mobile-firms-breaking-promises-on-roaming-fees-post-brexit-warns-martin-lewis

Yet another brexit bonus!!

Admittedly I don’t have a smartphone. Just a basic Nokia with a contract SIM. My bills seem constant pre- and post- Brexit. I’m over in Spain at the moment, ring my 90y old stepfather in the UK every day for a decent length chat to check all’s well and still only pay about £20 per month.

It’s not all gloom & doom!

I read a sad story today about the closure of one of Cardiff’s most authentic Spanish restaurants as a direct impact of Brexit. Such a shame.
www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/much-loved-cardiff-restaurant-la-24698610

“It’s not all gloom and doom “ - just most of it.

We use WhatsUp - but there is more to Brexit than cheap phone calls! And yes, most of it is Doom and Gloom in massive amounts.

“How about this for a brexit benefit. The EU price cap on gas is 43.99 Euros per mega watt hour. The UK is £263.79 per mega watt hour. Remind me, who does our Gov't represent?”

Chestnut

Brexit was skewed by covid which has had a far greater impact. The two were in progress at the same time. There is no way of knowing what would have happened without covid. And no-one expected Brexit to sort itself out straight away, it was always going to take time.

It is very simple to set apart the negative effects due to Covid, and those from Brexit, in fact.

Do you think it would have been won by that tiny, weeny majority, if they had said what they are saying now- to wait for 10 years, 20, 50? and knowing that the money would not go to improve facilities and conditions for the north, and for the NHS. 4%? that 4% and a lot more has already gone through demographics alone.

The problem is, is that the more time passes, the more it becomes clear, that time will NOT heal, and that things are getting worse and worse.

Urmstongran

Admittedly I don’t have a smartphone. Just a basic Nokia with a contract SIM. My bills seem constant pre- and post- Brexit. I’m over in Spain at the moment, ring my 90y old stepfather in the UK every day for a decent length chat to check all’s well and still only pay about £20 per month.

It’s not all gloom & doom!

So one tiny little thing [ not applicable to the majority ] staying the same is to be rejoiced?
What other " benefits" have you enjoyed from brexit?

Here's another Brexit benefit

Global export growth since 2019.

Eu countries have had covid and Ukraine war to deal with too...

I wonder why the UK is lagging so far behind...

Chestnut Have you tried comparing the rest of the EU countries, all of which suffered from covid, with the UK which,as you well know, is the only country to have Brexited? Seems to me that the UK is far worse off and we brought it upon ourselves, at least some of us did.

Exactly.

I hope that the following links might correct some of the misconceptions that some people have about those who voted for brexit.

www.tees.ac.uk/sections/news/pressreleases_story.cfm?story_id=6578

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brains-for-brexit-top-academics-and-thinkers-put-the-case-for-leave-d7pzdhb2s

thinkfide.com/en/why-have-some-uk-intellectuals-welcomed-brexit/

blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/brexit-and-the-squeezed-middle/

statspeople.com/debunking-brexit-caricatures-and-myths/

iea.org.uk/are-brexit-voters-really-less-intelligent-than-remainers/

www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk/angry-old-white-men-brexit-narratives-and-the-racialisation-of-old-labour/