Boris wins confidence vote

25Avalon

Interestingly he only had 66% support from fellow MP’s when he came to power. This has now dropped to 59% so not such a major loss as some might think. His popularity was with the electorate so whilst the Torries may close ranks for now to get policies through unless Boris has the support of the electorate he won’t be leading the party at the next General Election.

But he's got rid of those who opposed him most vocally - these are supposed to be the loyal ones - and it looks as though 75% of the non payroll MPs want him gone.

And what about Northern Ireland?

Growstuff as I said it was the support of the electorate that got him in. Without it he will be jettisoned.

Definitely time for him to stand down, then the Party can elect a new leader, re-group and prepare for the next GE.

25Avalon

Growstuff as I said it was the support of the electorate that got him in. Without it he will be jettisoned.

I’m not following your logic 25Avalon, as every poll since January has shown that he doesn’t have the support of the public now, and his popularity is diminishing further. Some of the MPs who voted against him have listened to their constituents, and some who voted for him haven’t.

My logic is that unless he regains public support he will be out. He has a year to do that as a vote of no confidence can’t be held for another twelve month.

GrannyGravy13

Definitely time for him to stand down, then the Party can elect a new leader, re-group and prepare for the next GE.

If I were a Conservative supporter, that's exactly what I would want. As I'm not, I sit on the sidelines and enjoy my popcorn (metaphorically).

Karma.

The Tories have spent the last few years dividing the country and sowing hate.

Now we can watch as they fight amongst the different divisions and spout hate about each other, plotting to de-throne the chief divider.

25Avalon

My logic is that unless he regains public support he will be out. He has a year to do that as a vote of no confidence can’t be held for another twelve month.

They have already said that they can change the rules on the 12 months security of tenure. I think the public has had it with him, there’s no way back. My prediction is that the elections at the end of the month will go very badly for the Tories, there will be more letters of no confidence submitted as a result, and he’ll be gone by the end of the summer.

growstuff the Party will have to get back to basics to secure mine and many others vote.

By basics do you mean traditional Toryism? The paternalistic type of Toryism?

The nation has more important things than allowing the MSM and the Remain elite to manipulate them, destroy the government and return us to the EU, which is what this is all about

Why would MSM want to ‘destroy the government and return to the EU?’ This MSM comment could be viewed as homophobic. Of course, Johnson himself has made / written many homophobic comments - no-one appears to challenge that but I find it offensive.

I'm not really sure what you mean either.

LizzieDrip

^The nation has more important things than allowing the MSM and the Remain elite to manipulate them, destroy the government and return us to the EU, which is what this is all about^

Why would MSM want to ‘destroy the government and return to the EU?’ This MSM comment could be viewed as homophobic. Of course, Johnson himself has made / written many homophobic comments - no-one appears to challenge that but I find it offensive.

Sorry to be a thicko, but why is the MSM comment homophobic?

Did anyone hear Nadine Dorries yesterday before the fatal vote announce that donors have said that they want Boris Johnson to continue and will withhold funding if he’s removed and therefore backbench MPs should listen to them.

Nakedly admitting that the Tory party leadership is in the hands of a few millionaires.

What an own goal that statement was! Apart from her saying that we are at war with Ukraine of course?

25Avalon

Interestingly he only had 66% support from fellow MP’s when he came to power. This has now dropped to 59% so not such a major loss as some might think. His popularity was with the electorate so whilst the Torries may close ranks for now to get policies through unless Boris has the support of the electorate he won’t be leading the party at the next General Election.

Yes except he had 66% when he was competing against others and 59% when only competing against himself...

Whitewavemark2

By basics do you mean traditional Toryism? The paternalistic type of Toryism?

Move away from the far right.

Listen to the electorate

Invest in infrastructure

Oh, my favourite Nadine-ism from yesterday was that she told us all that the government had not prepared for a pandemic. ??‍♀️

Although being at war with Ukraine was good too....

Well, that wouldn't be too bad!

How to you reconcile investment in infrastructure with a promise to reduce taxation (for some)?

volver

Oh, my favourite Nadine-ism from yesterday was that she told us all that the government had not prepared for a pandemic. ??‍♀️

Although being at war with Ukraine was good too....

She also told us the Party didn't want to upset its multi-million pound donors.

Ooops! Sorry WW2 I didn't see your post.

growstuff

Well, that wouldn't be too bad!

How to you reconcile investment in infrastructure with a promise to reduce taxation (for some)?

Taxation does not fund Government spending

source MaizieD and many other economists

growstuff (not a ‘thicko’ at all)
MSM means men who sleep with men - I assume Urmstongran was using it in that context. If so, it seems very unfair to link people’s sexual preference to their political leanings. Please correct me if I’m wrong!

Main Stream Media.

MSM

Oops Apologies to Urmstongran! Perhaps my interpretation of MSM shows where my mind is!