Boris wins confidence vote

Urmstongran

growstuff

The nation has more important things than allowing the MSM and the Remain elite to manipulate them, destroy the government and return us to the EU, which is what this is all about.

What absolute pure and unadulterated b***x!

Did you get that in a text from Doug?

You really have a nasty streak don’t you?
Quite cutting really.
I bet you were one of the mean girls at school too.

You'd have lost your bet!

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Jess Phillips MP

They are all going to have to swim in his filth now. I wonder if they think he'd do the same for them, they couldn't because they know he wouldn't. He'd sell everyone of them down the river for a funny headline.

Whitewavemark2

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I watched Johnson’s reaction to the vote last night, and wondered why he kept sniffing, so decided it must be the start of a cold or hay fever.

Then I read someone asking the question “did you notice his huge pupils despite the tv lights?”

Then it made sense.

Urmstongran could you possibly define for me what you think it takes to be a member of an elite? I am genuinely struggling to understand what a "remainer elite" looks like and also why you think being an Old Etonian and former member of the Bullingdon Club does not make you part of an elite.

Mamie

Urmstongran could you possibly define for me what you think it takes to be a member of an elite? I am genuinely struggling to understand what a "remainer elite" looks like and also why you think being an Old Etonian and former member of the Bullingdon Club does not make you part of an elite.

The 'remanier elite' is the one remaining in Downing Street.

Smog was smug WWM2 when he was interviewed last night.

The PM had a nasty cold too.........

Going back to 2016 a majority if Tories were remainers, after the referendum they accepted the vote and didn’t rock the boat too much, yesterday was payback time. So now BJ has about the same level of support as Starmer from his own party!.

The vote against BJ was more than I expected but in the short term nothing will change much, Partygate united his opposition but until there is a popular replacement in view he stays and takes the flack for his failings. He will go within a year who will replace him, probably a candidate from the junior level because the senior Tories are all tainted.

Katie59

Going back to 2016 a majority if Tories were remainers, after the referendum they accepted the vote and didn’t rock the boat too much, yesterday was payback time. So now BJ has about the same level of support as Starmer from his own party!.

The vote against BJ was more than I expected but in the short term nothing will change much, Partygate united his opposition but until there is a popular replacement in view he stays and takes the flack for his failings. He will go within a year who will replace him, probably a candidate from the junior level because the senior Tories are all tainted.

I don’t believe that, Those who voted against him were those who could no longer stomach the lies and corruption at the heart of the government. They were a mixture of all factions of the party. Things will change quickly now he can no longer guarantee a majority.

Agree Katie59 - he’ll be gone by next election ( if not sooner )
If there’s one thing the tories are good at
it’s surviving. Plus Labour are just not a great opposition at the moment.
If I had to bet I’d put my money on the tories winning the next election despite everything.

I agree with Casdon. This had very little to do with the outcome of the referendum. Some MPs genuinely do think Johnson is a charlatan. They became politicians to do some good - whether or not people agree with their ideology and methods. Others have witnessed public support slipping away from him and are fearful for their own seats. I taught one of the "ringleaders" some years ago and, unless she's changed a great deal, she's a genuine person - a "do-gooder" maybe - who couldn't tolerate hypocrisy.

Hmm! If I had a crystal ball (I don't ), I think the Conservatives will lose the next election. Whoever takes over is going to have a mammoth task and will probably disappoint. Meanwhile, the Conservatives will regroup. They need a good strategist, who can kick out the entryists from UKIP (Labour in reverse) and regain the trust of Middle England. I think we're in for a rocky decade or so. Meanwhile, the country needs to come to some kind of arrangement with the EU (single market or whatever) or we'll end up being no more relevant to future historians than Ancient Greece.

Does anyone remember that Margaret Thatcher was warned, prior to her demise, to soften her anti-European rhetoric?

Then there was the much-hated poll tax.

Boris Johnson appears to want a trade-war with Europe - the anti-EU rhetoric keeps on keeping on...

And we now have Sunak with his loan-but-not-a-loan being ditched in favour of more realistic help for, not just the poverty-stricken, but many who are just about managing. Forced to do that because of public opinion.

The similarities are interesting. Both Thatcher and Johnson were personally ambitious, but Johnson lacks the deep ideological conviction of Thatcher... Brexit was his transport to number 10, but I personally believe he would've hitched a ride on any other 'vehicle' as a means to an end.

I believe the writing is on the wall for him, and he's astute enough to know it.

It will be interesting to see what he will pull out of the hat now to rally his support base. I guess there'll be the inevitable cabinet reshuffle. But what will he throw out to the electorate? Most people appear to be mainly concerned with the ever-increasing cost of living. More anti-EU oratory - always popular with Brexiters - will not help our economic misery though. And 'build-back better' seems to have flopped. The promised immigration control is not under control. There'll be a few nods of confidence in the UK with some investors... investing in what's left of our industry, but will it be enough to really make a difference to the lives of ordinary people?

Having ditched the triple lock, presumably because he thought he wasn't still reliant on the 'grey' vote, he'll resurrect something for our benefit - now he realises that he still needs us .

He's got to do something that unites both the shire Tories and the Labour party defectors. And that will not be easy

It will be interesting to see what he will pull out of the hat now to rally his support base.

Right to buy.

More "war on woke".

The trouble is that there will be a lot of talk in the coming days of moving on and levelling up, cost of living, right to buy, crime etc etc.

But the point is - nothing happens, and where any effort is made it goes off half cock.

The thing is - Johnson is not a committed Brexiteer.

He spent 8 years, as London Mayor, giving speeches and talks, reiterating how important it was for us to remain in the EU.

Even the night before he had to decide what way to jump in the Brexit campaign, he wrote out two speeches - one for staying, and one for going.

He was then advised that by leading the "leave campaign" he would enhance his chances of being PM.

He's never had a coherent plan with Brexit, which is why the whole thing is such a shambles.

Everything is only ever about him. It always has been.

He's a good con man though, and fooled a lot of people, but he's been found out now.?

Meantime in Scotland there are 2 thats TWO MP's out of our 59 who supported the clown .
Democracy? Dont make me laugh .Time we were out of this DISunion

Whitewavemark2
Your eyes dilate when taking cocaine, it’s known as cocaine eye

MerylStreep

Whitewavemark2
Your eyes dilate when taking cocaine, it’s known as ^cocaine eye^

Time for work place drug testing?.

growstuff

More "war on woke".

Yes, that always plays well. The Daily Mail will have a field day with it.

And the ridiculous assumption (held by many I've found) that anti-Brexiters are all left wingers, there'll be renewed attacks on the Left... a kind of 'look-what-you'll-get-if-the-Left-are-in-power' theme.

I'd hope he will be more positive about people's real priorities rather than deflecting attention onto the Opposition. I think so many are concerned about inflation - and more to come, it seems. It would be good if he could introduce some meaningful measures that really would help people financially, not just immediately, but for the future. Businesses are closing - they can't find the staff, and people aren't spending. This is dismal. It's up to him to do something practical and helpful for business and the people. Simply parrying with the Opposition and reminding us of the successful vaccine programme (and it was) will not cut it for much longer.

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Interestingly he only had 66% support from fellow MP’s when he came to power. This has now dropped to 59% so not such a major loss as some might think. His popularity was with the electorate so whilst the Torries may close ranks for now to get policies through unless Boris has the support of the electorate he won’t be leading the party at the next General Election.

And more anti-immigrant stuff!

And blaming NHS staff for underfunding!

Maybe we should each one of those bingo card thingies and tick off when they're mentioned.

PS. Has anybody seen any building work on any of those 40 hospitals?