Boris wins confidence vote

Anniel

Not having the strength to read all posts, i think they did not get rid of BJ because there is nobody who supports Brexit that stands out. I wish B would stop listening to his wife who is not elected. If he was sensible he would have stayed with Marina. I note that the entire media is after his scalp with Beff Rigby leading. I am waiting for the Durham police to tell us Sir Keir holding up his beer and some who were there saying they had their curry snd beers after work finished will still result in Sir K being innocent because the Crime Commissioner for the area was present. I wonder what the UK electorate will think of that?
I wish we did have someone to replace Boris. Penny Mordaunt might be OK. Rishi is too rich,Liz Truss is not that popular. My son favours Ben Wallace but i am not sure which one is best. Looking at both sides of the house i dont see any outstanding members who would be great leaders.

But Johnson isn't an outstanding member or a great leader. If he were one of the chasing pack, would you choose him, knowing what you do about him?

luluaugust

Boris may be self interested but surely the 148 are selfless as they are almost certainly about to be voted out of very lucrative jobs if they carry on. The interviews with the general public are interesting as many of them are saying Boris has made some mistakes but we are all human and make mistakes. They also couldn't think of anyone else they wanted to take over from him. He seems to be seen as a damaged but relatable human being!. Certainly no great call for Labour to take over.

People who say that kind of thing must have very low moral standards.

The NHS is a pantechnicon. There is a finite number of staff, the more expert and qualified take many years to train and are in very short supply. Nursing is in crisis, with over 10% vacancy factor. It is massively under-resourced. There can be no magic wand, I’m amazed if any of the electorate is dumb enough to think there possibly could be.

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Whitewavemark2

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Rory Stewart
@RoryStewartUK
Remove the “payroll” vote - and look at the free vote from backbenchers. Almost 75% of all Tory MPs not dependent on his patronage voted against him. This is the end for Boris Johnson. The only question is how long the agony is prolonged.

The payroll voters number 95 I believe. This system needs to be changed.

My concern is if he goes who becomes prime minister ? I can’t see anyone that is any better and that is sad. Sadly I can’t vote Labour whilst Angela Rayner and Emily Thornbury are still in the shadow cabinet , they are just waiting to bring Corbin back

ruthiek

My concern is if he goes who becomes prime minister ? I can’t see anyone that is any better and that is sad. Sadly I can’t vote Labour whilst Angela Rayner and Emily Thornbury are still in the shadow cabinet , they are just waiting to bring Corbin back

Seriously? There is nobody in the whole House of Commons who would be better than Johnson? Why do you believe that? He's a lying charlatan who is not fit for office.

Corbyn's not coming back.

It means the Tory party will be finished at the next but it is a worry over how much damage they will do in the the next two years.

Morally bankrupt leader supported by morally bankrupt Tory MP's. They have really told the country that is OK to break the law and lie to Parliament. Hope they never suggest they are the party of Law and Order.

"^Boris Johnson's spokesman says the Prime Minister will transform the NHS into "a blockbuster health care system in the age of Netflix.^"

Isnt Netflix losing subscribers?

ruthiek

Corbyn is not responsible for the mess our country is in. He is only responsible for many voters turning against the Labour Party. No idea why anybody even mentions him now - other than on here, as a distraction to the lying PM and Tory Government who are taking us to hell in a handcart.

If Johnson had any backbone and morality he's step down now.

Perhaps they do growstuff and that is why they think they understand him.

Callistemon21

"^Boris Johnson's spokesman says the Prime Minister will transform the NHS into "a blockbuster health care system in the age of Netflix.^"

Isnt Netflix losing subscribers?

What Javid said was that the country has a “Blockbuster healthcare system in the age of Netflix”.

luluaugust

Perhaps they do growstuff and that is why they think they understand him.

Far from me to claim that his supporters have low moral standards!

They should have waited and called the vote after the bi elections. I’ve heard they’re trying to organise another vote for all MPs. Historically PMs don’t last long after a no confidence vote even if they win

volver

Callistemon21

"^Boris Johnson's spokesman says the Prime Minister will transform the NHS into "a blockbuster health care system in the age of Netflix.^"

Isnt Netflix losing subscribers?

What Javid said was that the country has a “Blockbuster healthcare system in the age of Netflix”.

"Blockbuster" with a capital or lower case B?

Presumably what he means is that it's all going to go digital/online.

Whitewavemark2

It isn’t getting any better is it?

“Boris Johnson's spokesman says the Prime Minister will transform the NHS into "a blockbuster health care system in the age of Netflix."

Asked repeatedly to explain what this means, Johnson's spokesman is unable to say which features of Netflix he believes the NHS should imitate.”

What Javid said was that the country has a “Blockbuster healthcare system in the age of Netflix.

The ^^ didn't work, I tried to quote from Whitewave's post

It's meaningless.

Capital B

I took it to mean that he thinks we have an NHS that used to be the bees knees 40 years ago, but that the world has moved on.

I think he just means it needs to modernise.

Nannina

They should have waited and called the vote after the bi elections. I’ve heard they’re trying to organise another vote for all MPs. Historically PMs don’t last long after a no confidence vote even if they win

No, all MPs can't vote for the leader of another party.

What has been suggested is that a vote of no confidence in the government could be called. The Conservatives would win hands down because they're not going to shoot themselves in the head.

Last night's vote was about the Conservatives and their leader (who happens to be PM) and can't involve MPs or members of any other party.

volver

Capital B

I took it to mean that he thinks we have an NHS that used to be the bees knees 40 years ago, but that the world has moved on.

I think he just means it needs to modernise.

All organisations should be prepared to change, but I'm not sure his understanding of "modernise" is the same as mine.

Adam Bienkov didn't get the analogy either to begin with. Maybe he's too young.

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I've been reading some of the policy documents and there definitely is a move to introduce more online/remote services. There's a couple of billion pounds available for "retraining". That includes training staff in GP practices to be like 111 staff and a PR campaign to "retrain" the public not to expect face-to-face appointments.

volver

Capital B

I took it to mean that he thinks we have an NHS that used to be the bees knees 40 years ago, but that the world has moved on.

I think he just means it needs to modernise.

I've got it now.

He was referring to a chain of video shops called Blockbuster - old hat in the age of Netflix.

They weren't really on my radar.

Let us hope that he is just clinging on while they create a suitable exit strategy and find a replacement for him.

I think he's hanging on long enough to sign us into slavery with the WEF/WHO. Don't forget when they are in charge of our health they may well decide that we only need one arm and one leg and they could legally amputate and we could do nothing about it. The UK Govt. are already going to make monkeypox a notifiable disease on 8th June. Remember also that even though Boris said there would be no more lockdowns, he still extended his right to call a lockdown.