Priti Patel wins legal battle over Rwanda migrants plan.

They would now be productive members of our society

Did Priti Patel receive advice from the EU on how to do this.
They had the idea long before her.

www.thenewhumanitarian.org/opinion/2019/08/16/migration-eu-rwanda-libya-plan

MerylStreep

Did Priti Patel receive advice from the EU on how to do this.
They had the idea long before her.

www.thenewhumanitarian.org/opinion/2019/08/16/migration-eu-rwanda-libya-plan

Not sure if your point?

Can anyone link the led by donkeys latest video. It shows the story of one asylum seeker being held in a detention centre.

Urmstongran

Best news I've heard all week.

Ah, the Birbalsingh opening. Bless.

Here is the link WW2.

twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1535329040474812421?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

People need to listen to this. This is a transcript of some of what this poor man said:

I wanted to stay in Syria. I never wanted to be called a refugee ... I stayed as long as I could hoping that things would change. Then Russia came with their airforce. Russia is responsible for mass destruction in Syria. Russia used weapons that nobody could even imagine. Rockets and airborne weapons. The airplanes would come over our neighbourhoods and leave them completely destroyed. Nothing is left. There were massacres. I feel happy for Ukrainians because they found someone to stand with them ...

So, I ask those people saying it is right to send refugees to Rwanda, why do we care more about a Ukranian refugee than a Syrian refugee forced to flee under the same circumstances? Both deserve our compassion and support.

If the Government is actually allowed to do this, where might it end?

Not far down the line they might decide to start sending British ​'undesirables' too - the homeless, the long-term unemployed, those who through physical or mental ill health will never make a net monetary contribution to the country's finances, criminals ...

This could be the tip of the iceberg.

OK, I'm probably exaggerating, but scarily, there are some on here who I think would still be cheering the Government on if that were to happen!

Thanks for the link Caravan
Oldnproud, I’m not sure you are exaggerating. I’m certain you’re right that some posters would cheer on plans to deport ‘undesirables’.

I would child murderers they would be on a plane tomorrow if I had my way.

Maudi

I would child murderers they would be on a plane tomorrow if I had my way.

A very well thought through comment?

volver

DiamondLily

I think it may catch on.

Sweden are talking to Rwanda and Ghana about sending some of their asylum seekers there, and America are, apparently, talking to Spain about sending some of theirs over to Spain.

Perhaps global dispersion will be seen as some sort of answer to stop this trafficking.

It did work with Australia. As soon as enough people realised they wouldn't be able to stay where they liked, the trafficking trade dried up.

Which is good - people trafficking is an evil trade, and despite the money we've given them, the French show little enthusiasm for stopping it at their borders, and keeping the migrants there.?

Like others, I'm not going to engage and maybe the people who think this is a good idea can revel in their echo chamber.

However, I will correct disinfirmation.

The people going from the US to Spain will be temporary workers. Australia's system resulted in people losing their minds in detention, or killing themselves, and they have been widely criticised for the approach. I don't know about Sweden and Ghana, but I'm sure you have all the facts readily available.

Lots of things "catch on" but that doesn't make them right. Deportation and slavery "caught on", but for all the wrong reasons.

At least I'm getting a list of people who are to be avoided in other threads.

I wasn't arguing about the moral issue of deportation, I was saying that anything that stops the traffickers must be good.

Trafficking is evil. ?

Thank you for the link caravan

Whatever Patel argues there is no doubt that she is guilty of practicing a form of rendition.

I wasn't arguing about the moral issue of deportation, I was saying that anything that stops the traffickers must be good.

Well we could shoot the migrants as they arrive on the beach here. Or at least sink their boats mid Channel and not save them from drowning.

That would stop the traffickers. Would that be good?

How is punishing the victims morally or even legally right?

I've noticed when certain left leaning posters haven't got an answer or don't like a post they try and make fun of the poster.

I suppose it makes them feel good about themselves hey ho whatever floats your dinghy

10:18volver

I thought you weren't going to engage in the echo chamber.

The traffickers, linked to organised crime, are earning a fortune. They put people to sea, not caring if they drown or not. Some have.

The French have made it clear that they will not assist in stopping the traffickers, on the French side of the Channel, because they want rid of the migrants.

They need to be stopped before there are more drownings - and no one seems to have any idea how to do this.?

Punishing victims isn't right - leaving them to drown isn't that great either.

I've noticed when certain right leaning posters haven't got an answer or don't like a post they say 'well most people in the real world feel like me' but never provide any evidence for that.

I have an answer the Rwanda plan.

Punishing victims isn't right - leaving them to drown isn't that great either.

Then open proper channels and enable these people to come here and contribute to our society which is in desperate need of workers.

It is not good news that we are turning away young, fit people who want to come here and work.

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/uk-public-opinion-toward-immigration-overall-attitudes-and-level-of-concern/

Some interesting information here.

Whitewavemark2
My point being, is: the EU have been sending migrants from Libya to other African countries since 2017. I don’t recall anyone kicking up a stink then.

From the article.
Thanks to an agreement reached at the African Union - EU summit in Nov 2017 Niger has since welcomed over 2,900 migrants from Libya
These are migrants that the EU are paying Libya to keep in the most horrendous conditions. Some of these migrants are being sold at slave markets.
I’m not agreeing with Patel, I’m saying that the EU don’t come out smelling of roses in this awful problem.

Oh I see. Two wrongs etc.

I wonder if Patel thought about sending migrants to South Africa? Called the Rainbow Nation, there is a large mix of people from all over the world. The migrants would blend in well with the population there. They will stand out like sore thumbs in Rwanda. I believe they would like South Africa too. I lived there for 14 years and have family there and they seem happy.

Annaram1

I wonder if Patel thought about sending migrants to South Africa? Called the Rainbow Nation, there is a large mix of people from all over the world. The migrants would blend in well with the population there. They will stand out like sore thumbs in Rwanda. I believe they would like South Africa too. I lived there for 14 years and have family there and they seem happy.

Sorry, I know I'll upset Maudi by commenting here but WTF is this about?