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Dominic Rabb is in charge of Westminster for 24 hours

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GrannyGravy13 Mon 20-Jun-22 14:07:02

PM Mr. Johnson has undergone surgery today (sinuses) and due to having a general anaesthetic Mr. Rabb is in charge.

CaravanSerai Tue 21-Jun-22 20:35:40

Import Johnson attend the Tory Party Summer Fundraising Ball last night which he did.

It was held at the V&A a public body funded by the public which, according to the Code of Conduct for Board Members of Public Bodies says trustees should be and should be seen to be politically impartial and should not occupy a high-profile role in a political party. Nevertheless it has senior Tory party figures Nicholas Coleridge and Ben Elliot on its board. It should not have hosted this event.

Note someone paid £120,000 to have dinner with Johnson, May and Cameron - like that is ever going to happen.

MayBee70 Tue 21-Jun-22 22:03:20

No. But it would be very interesting if it did! From what I’ve seen she absolutely loathes Johnson! And I don’t blame her. Can’t believe I look back nostalgically to a time when May represented us on the world stage confused

Casdon Tue 21-Jun-22 22:14:53

MayBee70

No. But it would be very interesting if it did! From what I’ve seen she absolutely loathes Johnson! And I don’t blame her. Can’t believe I look back nostalgically to a time when May represented us on the world stage confused

I understand. At least she could string a coherent speech together, comb her hair, and wasn’t a dishonest sleazeball. Also, she wore good shoes.

CaravanSerai Tue 21-Jun-22 22:25:25

We've drifted away from the subject of the thread but speaking of former leaders I thought I'd share this long 2020 social media thread written by historian Robert Saunders author of Yes to Europe! The 1975 Referendum & Seventies Britain on the topic of Conservative thinking about food supply in the 1970s.

The 1970s was a decade of serious anxiety about food supplies. Norman Tebbit, of all people, urged the government to consider rationing basic foodstuffs. That played a significant role in the decision to join the EEC, and raises some important questions today.

The UK has not been able to feed itself since the early C19th. Even for an industrial economy, it is unusually dependent on imported food. And by the 1970s, a mixture of bad harvests, population growth, inflation & the collapse of Commonwealth agreements was starting to bite.

In 1974, for example, Caribbean sugar imports dropped by a third, as producers abandoned Commonwealth trade agreements and sold to more lucrative markets elsewhere. Supermarkets introduced informal rationing, and consumer organisations urged the public to stop buying sugar.

Later that year, the Ministry of Agriculture warned that Canada might suspend grain exports if the currency continued to decline. In November, Margaret Thatcher had to open her cupboards to journalists to prove that she wasn't hoarding food.

1974 also saw a bakers' strike, in response to rising costs and falling real wages. Some suppliers restricted shoppers to a single loaf each, prompting queues outside bakeries at dawn. Conservative MPs again raised the prospect of rationing.

The UK had joined the EEC in 1973, but was still operating under transitional arrangements on food and farming. So the 1975 EEC referendum saw a serious debate, of the kind we don't seem to be capable of anymore, about what leaving might mean for the supply and price of food.

Leave campaigners argued that prices would be higher in Europe, because production costs were greater and the Common Agricultural Policy was designed to ensure farmers a decent wage. Barbara Castle compared shopping bags in London and Brussels, as a warning against EEC prices.

Pro-Europeans responded by pointing to rising prices across the world. The days of cheap food from compliant colonial markets, they warned, were over. European prices might, in some years, be higher, but Britain would at least have a guaranteed source of supply.

As Margaret Thatcher warned: "In Britain we have to import every second meal. Sometimes we shall pay less in the Community, & sometimes we shall pay more. But we shall have a stable source of supply, & most housewives would rather pay a little more than risk a bare cupboard”.

The leader of the National Farmers' Union warned of "a clear threat to continued regular food supplies if Britain left the Market". Voters were urged to think of the EEC as "the Common Super-Market. Well-stocked shelves; plenty of choice and just around the corner”.

The food economy has changed radically since the 1970s. Production has boomed, transportation has improved & prices have fallen. At the same time, Britons have become less suspicious of "Continental" food, & used to abundant supplies reliant on "just-in-time" delivery chains.

Yet food poverty remains a desperate social problem. In the year before the pandemic, foodbanks gave out 1.9 million food parcels. The poorest 10% of households spend more than double the share of income on food of the richest. If prices rise, we know who will suffer most.

47 years after joining the EEC, it's legitimate to ask whether the old arguments for membership still hold. What's less forgivable is the stunning incuriosity of those tasked with delivering Brexit about why Britain joined, what changed with membership, & what's now at stake.

Perhaps Brexiters can find better solutions to the challenges that drove the UK to join. But pretending those challenges did not exist - as if Conservatives like Thatcher, Heath & Macmillan embraced membership in some bizarre spasm of irrationality - is a recipe for disaster.

Brexit requires us to rethink nearly every major policy choice since 1973. If we don't understand why those choices were made, we won't be ready for the decisions that lie ahead.

And here we are.