Countries can ditch monarchy and become republics ‘calmly and without rancour’ says Prince of Wales

GrannyGravy13

Any one running for President would have to be financially secure or funded by someone who was, that paves the way for bribes…

And, as in America GG13, a country some seem to hold in high regard, despite recent events, this would mean that two or three families provide the President in some sort of rotation. How is that any better than our imperfect system, I wonder.

GrannyGravy13

Any one running for President would have to be financially secure or funded by someone who was, that paves the way for bribes…

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20243493

Don't judge everyone by the same standards.

Anything is possible if you can only imagine it.

(OK, I don't really believe that, but I'm a bit tired of the same old complaints with no grain of original thought attached.)

a country some seem to hold in high regard,

DaisyAnne you don't seem to be aware that when you say things like that you are throwing shade on your fellow contributors.

As the young folk say.

OK, I don't really believe that, but I'm a bit tired of the same old complaints with no grain of original thought attached.

I haven't heard any original thoughts from republicans either

Callistemon21

^OK, I don't really believe that, but I'm a bit tired of the same old complaints with no grain of original thought attached^.

I haven't heard any original thoughts from republicans either

Really? Then you haven't been listening.

Only reading on here, same old stuff.

I must say I don't know (m)any vociferous republicans, even our lovely neighbours joined in the Jubilee party.
Some of my Australian relatives would be happy to have a Republic.

I must say I don't know (m)any vociferous republicans

You don't say.

Oh, I did look at Republic which is often repeated on here anyway. Nothing much new since the days of Willie Hamilton.

We tried it once, didn't like it. It was far too repressive - as America is becoming.

I find Republic to be rather extreme.

Are you really saying we tried something in the 17th century so we can't do it again?

volver

^I must say I don't know (m)any vociferous republicans^

You don't say.

Well, yes, I did say!
You saw it here first.

Which means imo they must be in a minority.

I'm amazed you claim (more than once) Scitland could still retain the Monarch as HofS if Scotland became a republic so why would you, in particular as a republican, say that? Surely it would be part of your independence argument?

volver

I find Republic to be rather extreme.

Are you really saying we tried something in the 17th century so we can't do it again?

Rather like Brexit - if we don't like it is there any going back a second time?

OK, I have washing to put on, but before I go...

Yes Republicans are in a minority. Obviously we are, its said in every poll which is quoted here. Doesn't make us wrong though.

A desire for Scotland to become independent is a desire for us to have our own parliamentary system. That doesn't mean becoming a republic. The present Queen is Queen of Scots and would remain so if Scotland became independent. Independence would dissolve the Union of Parliaments (1707), not the Union of the Crowns (1603).

Personally I would like to see a republic, but that is not a necessary step to independence.

So I'm afraid you are just about as wrong as can be... republicanism is not part of my independence argument. Or anybody else's, really.

Or anybody else's, really.

I do understand how it works.
Perhaps not part of your argument.

If you think the independence movement in Scotland is anything at all to do with being a republic, then you don't understand how it works at all.

Ask your Australian relatives if they live in an independent country that isn't a republic.

volver

If you think the independence movement in Scotland is anything at all to do with being a republic, then you don't understand how it works at all.

Ask your Australian relatives if they live in an independent country that isn't a republic.

Yes I do understand
Perhaps you don't understand me.

I'm amazed you claim (more than once) Scotland could still retain the Monarch as HofS if Scotland became a republic so why would you, in particular as a republican, say that? Surely it would be part of your independence argument?

I'll rephrase that
I'm amazed you claim (more than once) that Scotland might still want to retain the Monarchy as HofS if Scotland became an independent country?

From others' posts on here I thought Scotland would want to be rid of anything that could be considered English and that includes the Monarchy, so we are told.
Again and again - I think we've got the message now.

You think the Monarchy is English, do you? How sweet. ?

Anyway, for the avoidance of doubt. Take it from someone who knows. The Scottish independence movement is not republican.

volver

You think the Monarchy is English, do you? How sweet. ?

Anyway, for the avoidance of doubt. Take it from someone who knows. The Scottish independence movement is not republican.

No, not me. No need to patroniseme.
But some on here do seem to think that for some reason.
Very odd.

Try telling that to some of your pro-independence supporters.

From others' posts on here I thought Scotland would want to be rid of anything that could be considered English and that includes the Monarchy according to them.
Try reading again.

Try telling that to some of your pro-independence supporters.

They're not my supporters. I don't tell them what to think. Whoever "they" are.

You can change what you've posted and add words after the event as much as you want. But I'm responding to what you post, not what you are thinking but not posting.

Off to Glasto
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Callistemon21

Off to Glasto
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You have stayed the course well Callistemon. Enjoy yourself.

Thank you!

A republic won’t happen in the UK anytime soon. Obviously. A lot of class stuff and vested interest going back centuries. I’m hoping it might happen here, though but I won’t hold my breath - far too many scaremongers amongst the politicians.

Newquay

Will RF accept living on less public money though?
Heard that jubilee cost about £28m and that came from
Public funds. Shameful at the mo-RF should pay for this out of their own wealth.
And stop this Duchy nonsense too!

But how much did it earn? People come from far and wide to catch a glimpse of our RF, & the Palace etc.

Charles has got problems of his own today:

"Prince Charles was last night engulfed in a major controversy following claims he accepted a suitcase stuffed with €1 million in cash for his charity from a billionaire Qatari sheik.

On another occasion the controversial politician is said to have given the heir to the throne the same amount – equivalent to £820,000 – in wads of banknotes packed into carrier bags from royal grocer Fortnum & Mason.

In total, Charles reportedly received €3 million in cash for the Prince of Wales Charity Foundation from Sheik Hamad Bin Jassim Bin Jaber Al Thani, the former prime minister of Qatar, in payments made between 2011 and 2015."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10953159/Prince-Charles-faces-questions-claims-accepted-1MILLION-cash-suitcase-Sheik.html