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Tory party members; choosing your next party leader and everyone's next PM, what, who, why?

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HousePlantQueen Mon 11-Jul-22 13:19:51

Hopefully, this will not get too heated! If anyone on here is a member of the Tory party, and therefore responsible for electing the next leader of the party and thus PM, what qualities are you looking for? What will make you prefer one candidate over another? What negatives would discount a candidate for you?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 11-Jul-22 13:41:24

There won’t be many as if the demography is correct, most members are elderly, wealthy southern white males.

martinthebandit Mon 11-Jul-22 15:10:43

Ex member so not able to vote although I may rejoin soon.

If I could vote then if she was one f the final two Kemi Badenoch looks promising.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 11-Jul-22 15:15:07

martinthebandit

Ex member so not able to vote although I may rejoin soon.

If I could vote then if she was one f the final two Kemi Badenoch looks promising.

That is interesting. So you are a believer in a minimum state and tax?

mokryna Mon 11-Jul-22 15:16:08

I can’t vote but please don’t vote for one who is an anti-abortionist. There is at least one on the list.

martinthebandit Mon 11-Jul-22 15:37:52

Whitewavemark2

martinthebandit

Ex member so not able to vote although I may rejoin soon.

If I could vote then if she was one f the final two Kemi Badenoch looks promising.

That is interesting. So you are a believer in a minimum state and tax?

I’m a believer in an efficient and effective state certainly.

MaizieD Mon 11-Jul-22 15:41:20

I’m a believer in an efficient and effective state certainly.

I'm sorry, but after 12 years of tory rule, what efficient and effective state are you talking about? grin

Visgir1 Mon 11-Jul-22 15:50:54

Whitewavemark2

There won’t be many as if the demography is correct, most members are elderly, wealthy southern white males.

Is that a true fact?
As I know some and they are all women or young Tories.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 11-Jul-22 15:57:54

I am sure there are some young females, but the majority are as described.

Allsorts Mon 11-Jul-22 15:58:07

Somebody that has integrity and loves the party and not have Johnson’s values. Although just 2 1/2 years he will be remembered for delivering Brexit, handling Covid as he did, two very life changing events and no one could have done it but him. His lies and cavalier attitude that he’s had all his life will continue, it’s like a game to him. If you can lie to your wives and children it’s obvious he will lie about anything he personally does, he thinks he’s above such scrutiny. However on the world stage he’s good, so that is the quality we need for the next pm. Can’t think of anyone with any personality either side really.

DaisyAnne Mon 11-Jul-22 16:03:40

Visgir1

Whitewavemark2

There won’t be many as if the demography is correct, most members are elderly, wealthy southern white males.

Is that a true fact?
As I know some and they are all women or young Tories.

On here Visgirl? smile

Prentice Mon 11-Jul-22 16:08:08

Martinthebandit I am in agreement with you there.
What is heartening is the number of black or otherwise ethnic backgrounds now in Conservative politics as MP’s, putting themselves forwards with many backers for the position of PM.
I have no vote either, but hope the members make a wise choice this time.

Urmstongran Mon 11-Jul-22 16:15:33

I can’t vote either but in order of who I would like as PM:

1. Kemi Badenoch
2. Suella Braverman
3. Penny Mordaunt
4. Pritti Patel

All women. I think it’s what the Tory party need.
Roll on Monday 5th September when the leader is announced.

Up then for PMQ’s against Keir Starmer on the Wednesday!

varian Mon 11-Jul-22 16:28:39

I'm disappointed in your choice Ug. Surely you're backing Nadine Dorries?

Urmstongran Mon 11-Jul-22 16:42:00

I won’t rise to the bait varian. ?

growstuff Mon 11-Jul-22 16:43:36

martinthebandit

Ex member so not able to vote although I may rejoin soon.

If I could vote then if she was one f the final two Kemi Badenoch looks promising.

Promising for what? Hopefully, Badenoch won't make it through to the next round. She's my MP. Not only is she a useless constituency MP, but she's a careerist who has probably never had an original thought in her life.

Esspee Mon 11-Jul-22 16:44:09

varian ???
#GONADS

growstuff Mon 11-Jul-22 16:45:03

OMG! Urmstongran I really despair that anyone thinks Badenoch is a serious contender.

growstuff Mon 11-Jul-22 16:48:02

Prentice

Martinthebandit I am in agreement with you there.
What is heartening is the number of black or otherwise ethnic backgrounds now in Conservative politics as MP’s, putting themselves forwards with many backers for the position of PM.
I have no vote either, but hope the members make a wise choice this time.

What on earth has the colour of anybody's skin got to do with anything?

Badenoch denies that racism exists anyway. It's all in the minds of the "woke" apparently.

Urmstongran Mon 11-Jul-22 16:53:35

Well from what I have heard of Kemi B. I like her. . It takes clarity of purpose and a robust personality to stand up to the civil serpents. Kemi seems to have it in spades.

Prentice Mon 11-Jul-22 16:55:34

If you were black as I am growstuff you certainly would not have to ask that question.
Getting on in any sphere, politics included is still harder for those of us with ethnic backgrounds.
Am not complaining at all, just seeing things for what they are.

Urmstongran Mon 11-Jul-22 17:35:44

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/07/09/kemi-badenoch-late-father-taught-responsibility/

LauraNorderr Mon 11-Jul-22 18:08:46

As a fully paid up member of the Conservative Party I will have a vote between the final two. Looking at the candidates thus far I will struggle.
I will study them all and hopefully find one with some new ideas to make the necessary changes to take us forward in this very different world.
Integrity, compassion, a good grip of finance and economy, an optimistic but realistic outlook so that we can feel confident in our future. A statesman to earn respect on the world stage. A believer in aspiration and the know-how to create opportunity. Someone strong enough to take tough decisions and not court popularity but with the ability to take good advice and the wisdom to recognise good advice.
That’s it for now. Hoping for a miracle obvs.

HousePlantQueen Mon 11-Jul-22 18:13:58

Thank you Lauren order, it was members such as yourself whose opinion I was interested in. Who did you vote for last time? Not being goady and you needn't reply if you don't wish to.

LauraNorderr Mon 11-Jul-22 18:17:06

Btw I am white, female, elderly, lots of friends of various ethnicities, many of them Conservatives. Our sons their wives and many of their friends are middle aged, various ethnicities and also Conservatives. One voting grandson aged 18 also Conservative as are many of his friends.
Just had a chat with our Tesco delivery driver, black, male, mid twenties, loved BJ and thinks ‘The Mogg rocks’. Hey ho.