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Ignore Nicola Sturgeon. She’s just an attention seeker.

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volver Tue 02-Aug-22 09:08:05

So. The person who is likely to be our next Prime Minister told the party faithful at a hustings in Exeter that the best thing to do about Sturgeon is to ignore her. When told by the moderator that NS was democratically elected to her position, Truss said NS is just an attention seeker. Cue lots of excited clapping and cheering.

This is the woman who is meant to be our senior diplomat, who will be in the company of world leaders. NS was elected by 48% (or so) of the electorate of her country, Truss will inherit the job by getting the votes of something like 0.03% of the electorate. Ignore Sturgeon, you’re ignoring half the population of Scotland and telling them that you know better what’s good for them.

It’s the number one story up here but I don’t know how much its being reported in rUK.

Last week I called her a Welsh carrot. (You had to be there wink) But it seems I over estimated her. She’s lost the place, as we say up here.

volver Tue 02-Aug-22 13:02:48

Robin49

Kandinsky

It doesn't bode well for our relationship with Scotland at a time when we certainly don't need further division and disharmony

????

NS & the SNP want out of the UK.
They absolutely HATE being part of the UK & want independence ASAP.

Good luck to them, the sooner they go the better. Then the EU can have them because they’ll never be truly independent’ - they’ll just be free from England which is all they want.

Completely agree with you. Please just go Scotland.

Maybe you can get on a conference call with Prentice and Starmer and arrange that for us? wink

I actually mis-read that at first and thought it said please go to Scotland. smile

Callistemon21 Tue 02-Aug-22 13:00:30

Prentice

Yorkshire people do speak more bluntly than here in the South.
Not diplomatic perhaps, but many people do like that.
I suppose that half the Scottish people may well agree with the remarks? They really do not want to leave our union.

There's blunt and there's downright rude and offensive. And silly.

volver Tue 02-Aug-22 13:00:23

Prentice

Yes volver I will phone Sir Keir Starmer as soon as I have finished the washing and hung it out to dry.
He has always said that Labour would look at this again, but that will not be until after the two years from now.

He's not the one we vote for. His party aren't the one we vote for. Why does he think he's got any say at all?

Then one we vote for wants - and promised - a referendum.

Robin49 Tue 02-Aug-22 12:59:23

Kandinsky

*It doesn't bode well for our relationship with Scotland at a time when we certainly don't need further division and disharmony*

????

NS & the SNP want out of the UK.
They absolutely HATE being part of the UK & want independence ASAP.

Good luck to them, the sooner they go the better. Then the EU can have them because they’ll never be truly independent’ - they’ll just be free from England which is all they want.

Completely agree with you. Please just go Scotland.

Zonne Tue 02-Aug-22 12:57:47

Damn, quoted the wrong post. Sorry Volver and Kandinsky, meant to quote the latter's original comment only.

Zonne Tue 02-Aug-22 12:56:31

volver

Kandinsky

I’ve had enough of this politics board -it’s anti English, anti Tory, EU loving, hypocritical & just plain silly.

Bye.

Oh, seriously, grow up.

Do we have to be polite about Truss because she is English and we need to know our place?

Take your grievances away and nurse them to keep them warm. We may be gone when you come back.

Flouncing because people don't agree with you seems silly to me.

Having a debate about the views of a politician who will, if chosen as leader of the Conservatives, become the Prime Minister of the whole UK, and will need to work constructively with the elected leaders of the devolved admininstrations/governments, does not.

Prentice Tue 02-Aug-22 12:55:10

Yes volver I will phone Sir Keir Starmer as soon as I have finished the washing and hung it out to dry.
He has always said that Labour would look at this again, but that will not be until after the two years from now.

paddyann54 Tue 02-Aug-22 12:53:39

Can I just point out that the SNP last won an election 88 DAYS ago with a 45% of the vote

The last time the Tories won an election in Scotland was .....24,588 days ago .That would be 1955 .
Yet we've been subjected to tory rule for much of that time .
Independence is NORMAL ,or are you of the opinion that Scotland with its vast wealth is the only country in the world who cant rule ourselves?
Or do you just want to do what you did to countless other countries and bleed us dry before you "let" us go.
Our country our decision,no one can be forced to stay in a union as Brexit showed ..so why should we be.

volver Tue 02-Aug-22 12:48:44

Prentice

I believe the remarks to ignore her were really meant to be to ignore the calls for another referendum.I do agree that could have been said in a diplomatic way.
It does look as if there will be no referendum for over two years now.If Labour win the next election they will look at this situation again.

It doesn't matter

She said she will ignore the democratically elected leader of the second biggest country in the Union who is trying to enact the promises they made in their manifesto.

No referendum for 2 years? We'll see. Labour will look at this situation again? Best have a word with Starmer there.

Entirelyfading Tue 02-Aug-22 12:46:54

Politician seeks attention. Hold the front page! What is Liz Truss doing?

Prentice Tue 02-Aug-22 12:44:44

I believe the remarks to ignore her were really meant to be to ignore the calls for another referendum.I do agree that could have been said in a diplomatic way.
It does look as if there will be no referendum for over two years now.If Labour win the next election they will look at this situation again.

volver Tue 02-Aug-22 12:37:29

I suppose that half the Scottish people may well agree with the remarks? They really do not want to leave our union.

Even the Scottish people who do not want to leave the Union have not all rallied around the remarks. Except the radical Unionists like Murdo Fraser.

The FM is our elected leader and Truss says she is just going to ignore her. Its heartening to see that so many people posting on here understand why that is unacceptable.

Casdon Tue 02-Aug-22 12:35:43

Kandinsky

I’ve had enough of this politics board -it’s anti English, anti Tory, EU loving, hypocritical & just plain silly.

Bye.

I think a lot of people on this forum don’t share your extreme right wing views Kandinsky, but that doesn’t mean we are a homogenous group, in fact far from it.

volver Tue 02-Aug-22 12:33:58

Kandinsky

I’ve had enough of this politics board -it’s anti English, anti Tory, EU loving, hypocritical & just plain silly.

Bye.

Oh, seriously, grow up.

Do we have to be polite about Truss because she is English and we need to know our place?

Take your grievances away and nurse them to keep them warm. We may be gone when you come back.

Kandinsky Tue 02-Aug-22 12:31:13

I’ve had enough of this politics board -it’s anti English, anti Tory, EU loving, hypocritical & just plain silly.

Bye.

Riverwalk Tue 02-Aug-22 12:27:30

Nothing admirable about being blunt - it usually just means being rude.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 02-Aug-22 12:27:15

Kandinsky

*There speaks the voice of diplomacy and good neighbourliness*

Well I’m not the one wanting to leave our neighbours Scotland - they want to leave.

And what has that to do with Truss’s crassness?

Kandinsky Tue 02-Aug-22 12:25:16

There speaks the voice of diplomacy and good neighbourliness

Well I’m not the one wanting to leave our neighbours Scotland - they want to leave.

Prentice Tue 02-Aug-22 12:22:17

Yorkshire people do speak more bluntly than here in the South.
Not diplomatic perhaps, but many people do like that.
I suppose that half the Scottish people may well agree with the remarks? They really do not want to leave our union.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 02-Aug-22 12:21:31

Kandinsky

Boris Johnson was our democratically elected leader - not many on here respected that!

I think you will find that was the Tory party. No one had any say on GN on his departure.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 02-Aug-22 12:20:22

Kandinsky

*It doesn't bode well for our relationship with Scotland at a time when we certainly don't need further division and disharmony*

????

NS & the SNP want out of the UK.
They absolutely HATE being part of the UK & want independence ASAP.

Good luck to them, the sooner they go the better. Then the EU can have them because they’ll never be truly independent’ - they’ll just be free from England which is all they want.

There speaks the voice of diplomacy and good neighbourliness.

Riverwalk Tue 02-Aug-22 12:19:23

The British public criticising a PM, and it was much-deserved IMO, is a far cry from the likely UK PM being so contemptuous and disrespectful to the leader of a home nation.

Kandinsky Tue 02-Aug-22 12:13:34

Boris Johnson was our democratically elected leader - not many on here respected that!

Riverwalk Tue 02-Aug-22 12:10:20

Truss is over-promoted and doesn't think before she speaks - it was glossed over but remember when she said she supported Britons going to Ukraine to fight. Whatever was she thinking!

And just like Johnson, Truss refused to be interviewed by Andrew Neil, unlike Sunak. She obviously knows that she wouldn't stand up to detailed scrutiny.

HousePlantQueen Tue 02-Aug-22 12:09:35

All the gringringrin don't hide the snippy remarks kandinsky. I am not a fan of NS but recognise her as a democratically elected leader. When I listen to self promoting fools like Truss I recognise just how low this country has sunk. Can anyone imagine her trying to negotiate the GFA like Mo Mowlam and others did? People sitting at talks with others who they loathed, but putting their considerable differences aside for the common good? Listen to Truss and weep for what we have lost and for what we will lose.