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Ignore Nicola Sturgeon. She’s just an attention seeker.

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volver Tue 02-Aug-22 09:08:05

So. The person who is likely to be our next Prime Minister told the party faithful at a hustings in Exeter that the best thing to do about Sturgeon is to ignore her. When told by the moderator that NS was democratically elected to her position, Truss said NS is just an attention seeker. Cue lots of excited clapping and cheering.

This is the woman who is meant to be our senior diplomat, who will be in the company of world leaders. NS was elected by 48% (or so) of the electorate of her country, Truss will inherit the job by getting the votes of something like 0.03% of the electorate. Ignore Sturgeon, you’re ignoring half the population of Scotland and telling them that you know better what’s good for them.

It’s the number one story up here but I don’t know how much its being reported in rUK.

Last week I called her a Welsh carrot. (You had to be there wink) But it seems I over estimated her. She’s lost the place, as we say up here.

Lucca Fri 05-Aug-22 10:37:20

Of course she did….

grannygranby Fri 05-Aug-22 10:11:18

Truss’s original comment about the school came from an interview in which she said that on arriving at Oxford her new peers were no more intelligent than her old peers in 6th form Leeds comprehensive the only difference was that they had been privately educated and that’s why she felt that Roundhay her school had failed it’s pupils. More could have been done to get them to Oxbridge. She is now insisting that all state school pupils of certain attainment automatically get considered by Oxbridge. Her two daughtersc(Liberty and Frances - up the revolution) go to state grammars. And the eldest, 16 does her Instagram account .. not her.
And I agree with jenniewmd re Scotland and NS. And thank you for those who spelt out what Great Britain really means, just the biggest island which is why Northern Ireland has to be tagged on the end - not because they are not great! The confusion is encouraged eg TeamGB when it should be TeamUK … it just feeds the nationalist feelings of superiority.
My children went to adjacent north Leeds comprehensives at the time, like her parents, for political reasons
but I had to pay for private maths tutors for both as the schools kept losing / didn’t have maths teachers. And that is no frill it is required for basic matriculation. The local authority (Labour in Leeds) were in control of education at the time.
….Whereas at Leeds Girls High (private) 4* A-levels are expected with over 90% of pupils.. they had theatres and swimming pools orchestras… were they brighter? No says Liz. And so do I. Oxbridge shouldn’t just be for the privileged. That’s what she meant.

Callistemon21 Fri 05-Aug-22 09:35:16

Lucca

Prentice. I agree about Truss not being thick in the sense of academic performance but I see how she conducts herself and the ill considered remarks she makes in public and feel,there is a lack of emotional intelligence, tact common sense.

She didn’t have private education but she had a damn good school !

Yes, as the saying goes "All brains but no common sense"

Disclaimer:
That, of course, does not apply to everyone who is intellectual and academic.

Petera Fri 05-Aug-22 09:20:09

Prentice

Petera I have no prejudices in this matter.

If you say so. So what was this about Let us not go down this route because we do not approve of private schools or wealthy parents.? I didn't make any comment about either.

But your 'common sense' trumps my direct experience, fine.

Prentice Fri 05-Aug-22 09:13:12

Yes Lucca I think that is a more accurate picture.

Lucca Fri 05-Aug-22 09:12:10

As I have said I am not yet comatose …not brainwashed, but I would still like to see NS publicly saying these terrible things about elected leaders of countries.not asking much surely in the interests of debate?

Lucca Fri 05-Aug-22 09:08:41

Prentice. I agree about Truss not being thick in the sense of academic performance but I see how she conducts herself and the ill considered remarks she makes in public and feel,there is a lack of emotional intelligence, tact common sense.

She didn’t have private education but she had a damn good school !

Prentice Fri 05-Aug-22 09:08:39

Petera I have no prejudices in this matter.

Zonne Fri 05-Aug-22 09:06:30

NS is a dictator and is trying to turn Scotland into a 'One Party State.' She will never get my vote....ever

The fact you know your vote matters proves you don’t live in a dictatorship.

Petera Fri 05-Aug-22 09:04:02

Prentice

Petera

Nightsky2

varian

Truss has belittled her old school which by all other accounts was a very good school. Listening to her now it makes me think what an amazingly good school it must have been for a person who appears to have such limited intelligence to get to Oxford University.

I guess she knows what the school was like and you don’t!. Did you go to Oxford or Cambridge, just wondering. I don’t think you get to go to Oxford or Cambridge to study PPE if you are of limited intelligence.

I taught and researched for 25 years at a Russell group university and I will confirm that there are many terminally thick students there who got top results in their A levels.

This sort of comment by Petera is exactly why I do not believe everything I read on forums.
I do not like Liz Truss but have the common sense to realise that a person does not get into Oxford or Cambridge by being terminally thick, or thick of any kind, especially with the use of the word many.
The only not bright enough students perhaps, who attended these universities being members of the royal family.
Even with the use of private schools and extra tuition a student will not get four or more top grades at A level and be ,
As the poster puts it, thick.
Let us not go down this route because we do not approve of private schools or wealthy parents.
In the case of Liz Truss she did not have the benefit of either.

This sort of comment is why I believe that some people will just go with their prejudices no matter what evidence is put in front of them by people who have actually have direct experience.

OmaforMaya Fri 05-Aug-22 09:03:56

Jeanniewmd what a great post.....I totally agree with everything you say. NS is slowly wrecking Scotland.

Prentice Fri 05-Aug-22 09:00:34

Petera

Nightsky2

varian

Truss has belittled her old school which by all other accounts was a very good school. Listening to her now it makes me think what an amazingly good school it must have been for a person who appears to have such limited intelligence to get to Oxford University.

I guess she knows what the school was like and you don’t!. Did you go to Oxford or Cambridge, just wondering. I don’t think you get to go to Oxford or Cambridge to study PPE if you are of limited intelligence.

I taught and researched for 25 years at a Russell group university and I will confirm that there are many terminally thick students there who got top results in their A levels.

This sort of comment by Petera is exactly why I do not believe everything I read on forums.
I do not like Liz Truss but have the common sense to realise that a person does not get into Oxford or Cambridge by being terminally thick, or thick of any kind, especially with the use of the word many.
The only not bright enough students perhaps, who attended these universities being members of the royal family.
Even with the use of private schools and extra tuition a student will not get four or more top grades at A level and be ,
As the poster puts it, thick.
Let us not go down this route because we do not approve of private schools or wealthy parents.
In the case of Liz Truss she did not have the benefit of either.

Petera Fri 05-Aug-22 08:59:54

OmaforMaya

Lucca you must be comatose if you haven't heard her...but then.... her supporters are so brainwashed by her.

Oh look Lucca - someone's making a degrading remark about you.

Lucca Fri 05-Aug-22 08:55:48

I’m not comatose yet. But thanks. Nor brainwashed.
Why could you not just give some examples of her being offensive in public about Johnson or others that’s all I’m asking.

I mean we have seen Liz truss doing it in public.

Lucca Fri 05-Aug-22 08:53:30

I live in hope…

OmaforMaya Fri 05-Aug-22 08:53:06

Lucca you must be comatose if you haven't heard her...but then.... her supporters are so brainwashed by her.

Lucca Fri 05-Aug-22 08:32:37

but Nicola Sturgeon has insulted and made hugely numerous degrading remarks about Conservative MPs especially Boris Johnson

I’d love to see some examples

Petera Fri 05-Aug-22 08:30:05

OmaforMaya

TopsyIrene06

Liz Truss, the best argument for Scottish Independence yet. So rude and undiplomatic. Apologies to NS and Scotland. Please don't judge us all by her standards. Absolutely shocking.

And..please don't think all the Scottish people want Independence. I agree that Liz Truss should not have said what she did but Nicola Sturgeon has insulted and made hugely numerous degrading remarks about Conservative MPs especially Boris Johnson. NS is a dictator and is trying to turn Scotland into a 'One Party State.' She will never get my vote....ever. Here in Scotland we have never had such an abnoxious and self obsessed leader.

Yes - one party state - I guess that what proportional representation does for you. Do I have to add a smiley?

OmaforMaya Fri 05-Aug-22 08:28:04

TopsyIrene06

Liz Truss, the best argument for Scottish Independence yet. So rude and undiplomatic. Apologies to NS and Scotland. Please don't judge us all by her standards. Absolutely shocking.

And..please don't think all the Scottish people want Independence. I agree that Liz Truss should not have said what she did but Nicola Sturgeon has insulted and made hugely numerous degrading remarks about Conservative MPs especially Boris Johnson. NS is a dictator and is trying to turn Scotland into a 'One Party State.' She will never get my vote....ever. Here in Scotland we have never had such an abnoxious and self obsessed leader.

Petera Fri 05-Aug-22 08:25:11

Nightsky2

varian

Truss has belittled her old school which by all other accounts was a very good school. Listening to her now it makes me think what an amazingly good school it must have been for a person who appears to have such limited intelligence to get to Oxford University.

I guess she knows what the school was like and you don’t!. Did you go to Oxford or Cambridge, just wondering. I don’t think you get to go to Oxford or Cambridge to study PPE if you are of limited intelligence.

I taught and researched for 25 years at a Russell group university and I will confirm that there are many terminally thick students there who got top results in their A levels.

Aveline Fri 05-Aug-22 07:49:02

Jeaniewmd thank you. I exactly encapsulates my exasperation at this SNP govt. This is all well known in Scotland but some English people aren't aware of this. Don't believe NS's hype.

nanna8 Fri 05-Aug-22 04:20:07

If they go they should do a good job of it and go completely. No mucking around, no taking grants or financial aid and don’t forget to set up good border controls so that nice long queues form.

cariad25 Fri 05-Aug-22 03:57:10

'Miss Trusst' is good but we call her 'Disatruss'!!

Baggytrazzas Thu 04-Aug-22 23:22:31

Jeanniewmd, I hope you have your facts correct and with proof, should you be asked to provide this.

Lucca Thu 04-Aug-22 23:21:56

Nightsky2

Nightsky2

varian

Truss has belittled her old school which by all other accounts was a very good school. Listening to her now it makes me think what an amazingly good school it must have been for a person who appears to have such limited intelligence to get to Oxford University.

I guess she knows what the school was like and you don’t!. Did you go to Oxford or Cambridge, just wondering. I don’t think you get to go to Oxford or Cambridge to study PPE if you are of limited intelligence.

HSPS Cambridge.

Well I DO Know what the school was like! It has never had less than outstanding or good reports,
She has a nerve criticising it.
She was as has been pointed out educated entirely under Tory rule….