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Why is Boris still PM if he's going to do no work?

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GagaJo Mon 15-Aug-22 09:16:20

Just that really. Is he only remaining as official PM to get paid? Because if he has no intention of working, surely he should be taken off the books, as any of us would be if we absented ourselves from work.

DaisyAnne Thu 18-Aug-22 10:28:40

Whitewavemark2

Her economic policies are being absolutely trashed by economists and commentators,

They are not policies. They are sound bites and pronouncements that Truss will have to disown. This thread being about Johnson, I was saying he will be there and paid, not to do an MP's job - I doubt he could - but to undermine her.

All we can hope is that he gets more than 10 days suspension. I cannot think that his constituents feel he has worked for them. Also he only has a small majority.

Petera Thu 18-Aug-22 10:24:51

Whitewavemark2

Her economic policies are being absolutely trashed by economists and commentators,

... even Minford has begun to see some problems.

maddyone Thu 18-Aug-22 10:23:22

….life is too short………to read seven pages smile

But often true. I often think there are some posters on Gransnet who must do nothing except read Gransnet grin

Whitewavemark2 Thu 18-Aug-22 10:10:18

Her economic policies are being absolutely trashed by economists and commentators,

DaisyAnne Thu 18-Aug-22 10:03:12

Back to the OP. Sorry if this has already been said but life is too short and too busy to read seven pages smile

Johnson is waiting. With the new PM anointed, this walking ego will see his job as undermining her. She - it looks as if it will be she - will have to about turn so quickly her head will spin. From appealing to a tiny, mainly old, mainly white, often racist, mainly male selectorate, she will have to go back on so many things she has said as she now attempts to appeal to general voters. These being the general voters she has often slapped in the face to get the leadership.

They say you cannot kid a kidder. In the same way, a simple liar will not be able to outwit the greatest narcissistic liar in our parliamentary history. He will see his only job as undermining his successor, thus protecting his very, very large ego.

DaisyAnne Thu 18-Aug-22 09:22:50

Arto1s

MaizieD I really don’t care if you take me seriously or not. It seems to me that the only people taken seriously on here are those raging against Boris Johnson.

Like so many on the far-right you don't do critical thinking do you Artols? What has your sister got to do with this. Don't you have a vote in the UK?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 18-Aug-22 08:12:22

Oldnproud

MaizieD

Arto1s

MaizieD I really don’t care if you take me seriously or not. It seems to me that the only people taken seriously on here are those raging against Boris Johnson.

They're taken seriously because they value honesty, integrity, a work ethic, observing the law and having care for the populace, in a country's leader.

Johnson violates every single one of those qualities. He has also achieved nothing good during his term of office.
Those who support Johnson presumably share his complete lack of moral compass. Can't take them seriously.

???

Yes

Oldnproud Thu 18-Aug-22 07:15:47

MaizieD

Arto1s

MaizieD I really don’t care if you take me seriously or not. It seems to me that the only people taken seriously on here are those raging against Boris Johnson.

They're taken seriously because they value honesty, integrity, a work ethic, observing the law and having care for the populace, in a country's leader.

Johnson violates every single one of those qualities. He has also achieved nothing good during his term of office.
Those who support Johnson presumably share his complete lack of moral compass. Can't take them seriously.

???

Lucca Thu 18-Aug-22 05:14:11

Arto1s

Callistemon21 My opinion, as you know, was that I thought Boris Johnson had been a good Prime Minister. And it did seem to wind you up - no further comment.

Ok so in what way has he been a good prime minister,
Let’s hear some examples

I wonder if you are a Trump supporter too ? Just a thought.

MaizieD Thu 18-Aug-22 00:46:09

Arto1s

My sister has more moral compass than anyone I know. She would also vote Boris in again if she could. She looks to what he can do in his public life rather than in his private.

It was his public life I was referring to.

Arto1s Wed 17-Aug-22 23:31:57

My sister has more moral compass than anyone I know. She would also vote Boris in again if she could. She looks to what he can do in his public life rather than in his private.

Arto1s Wed 17-Aug-22 23:30:13

Wow! No room here for “we will have to agree to disagree” then?

MaizieD Wed 17-Aug-22 23:24:30

Arto1s

MaizieD I really don’t care if you take me seriously or not. It seems to me that the only people taken seriously on here are those raging against Boris Johnson.

They're taken seriously because they value honesty, integrity, a work ethic, observing the law and having care for the populace, in a country's leader.

Johnson violates every single one of those qualities. He has also achieved nothing good during his term of office.
Those who support Johnson presumably share his complete lack of moral compass. Can't take them seriously.

Arto1s Wed 17-Aug-22 23:07:46

MaizieD I really don’t care if you take me seriously or not. It seems to me that the only people taken seriously on here are those raging against Boris Johnson.

MaizieD Wed 17-Aug-22 23:05:29

Arto1s

Callistemon21 My opinion, as you know, was that I thought Boris Johnson had been a good Prime Minister. And it did seem to wind you up - no further comment.

Announcing that you were going to wind us up puts a question mark over the statement following that announcement. I.e was it a genuine opinion or was it just a wind up?

It's also very difficult to take anyone seriously who thinks that Johnson has been a good PM...

Arto1s Wed 17-Aug-22 22:44:13

Callistemon21 My opinion, as you know, was that I thought Boris Johnson had been a good Prime Minister. And it did seem to wind you up - no further comment.

Nusgranny Wed 17-Aug-22 22:26:54

Bodgejob is still PM, the country is in crisis and he has gone on his holidays, again. Starmer is Leader of the Opposition and as such is not (yet) responsible for the country.

Callistemon21 Wed 17-Aug-22 20:54:10

Arto1s

I didn’t realise one could not express an opinion unless one was directly affected by the situation. Fleurpepper, I assume this is what you are implying?

Of course you may express an opinion, Artols

But saying Just to wind you all up on here is not really an opinion, is it.

Iam64 Wed 17-Aug-22 20:47:40

Oldnproud

Whitewavemark2

What I find bizarre is that commentators seem to agree that what we are hearing from the two candidates is for the members and winning their votes, suggesting that they will act differently once in power.

So that suggests to me that we have absolutely no idea what will happen once on of them is PM.

Democracy has gone out of the window.

Absolutely.

If the commentators are right, and whoever becomes PM changes tack as soon as they are in power, it will prove straight away that they are the lying, untrustworthy opportunists that many of us already suspect them to be, and that they take us all, both their fellow party members and the rest of us, for gullible idiots

Lies, lies and more lies.

Yes, our democracy is stuffed.

Apologies for my inability to find the words to express my feelings. Thanks to Whitewave old and proud and others posting here.
I try to be positive but We’re All Doooooomed

Oldnproud Wed 17-Aug-22 19:31:33

Whitewavemark2

What I find bizarre is that commentators seem to agree that what we are hearing from the two candidates is for the members and winning their votes, suggesting that they will act differently once in power.

So that suggests to me that we have absolutely no idea what will happen once on of them is PM.

Democracy has gone out of the window.

Absolutely.

If the commentators are right, and whoever becomes PM changes tack as soon as they are in power, it will prove straight away that they are the lying, untrustworthy opportunists that many of us already suspect them to be, and that they take us all, both their fellow party members and the rest of us, for gullible idiots

Lies, lies and more lies.

Yes, our democracy is stuffed.

Fleurpepper Wed 17-Aug-22 18:48:11

Arto1s

Just to wind you all up on here, I think Boris Johnson has been a good Prime Minister, and heaven help you when your new one is in power.

And make such comments very cheap and unfair.

Fleurpepper Wed 17-Aug-22 18:45:54

Arto1s

I didn’t realise one could not express an opinion unless one was directly affected by the situation. Fleurpepper, I assume this is what you are implying?

No, but I do think it makes a difference.

Arto1s Wed 17-Aug-22 18:15:48

My entire family live in England, so safe to say I care very much about how they will be affected.

Arto1s Wed 17-Aug-22 18:14:46

I didn’t realise one could not express an opinion unless one was directly affected by the situation. Fleurpepper, I assume this is what you are implying?

Philippa111 Wed 17-Aug-22 18:09:09

TillyTrotter

Boris is now a caretaker PM.
Does that mean he just sweeps up and changes toilet rolls?

That gave me a laugh Tilly. Thanks