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Diana’s death. This makes for interesting reading

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Lucca Wed 31-Aug-22 07:25:05

I had no idea about most of this.

MissAdventure Thu 01-Sept-22 15:23:34

Yes, but I never read it.
I will now, though, and I would also watch an interview with Trevor (who, incidentally, didn't suggest any kind of conspiracy in his book)

Esmay Thu 01-Sept-22 16:02:33

Hi Callistemon ,

It's all academic now -but according to my friend , who is a consultant specialising in trauma - it would take highly specialised equipment and technique to stabilise a ruptured pulmonary vein at the scene .
And they also drove to a hospital which is a long way away from the tunnel .

We shall never really know .

If only most of us could get into a Tardis .

We shall never really know what happened to Diana let alone restore her to her family .

Anniebach Thu 01-Sept-22 16:07:56

We do know what happen, she died in a car crash but a murder is of more interest to some.

Mollygo Thu 01-Sept-22 16:39:28

It really seems to depend what you want to believe. She’s dead, whatever happened.

Daddima Thu 01-Sept-22 17:07:09

Most of what we ‘know’ has been read in newspapers or online, so, hardly totally credible. And surely, with all their resources, MI 5/6 or whoever, could have done away with her more efficiently? I heard Lady Colin Campbell ( no, don’t sneer) say they could have done something like staging a drowning by having divers in the water when she was in the South of France, rather than relying on the circumstances around a crash.
It was an accident, and she was not wearing a seatbelt.

spabbygirl Fri 02-Sept-22 11:21:32

It doesn't matter how much you examine what happened afterwards its the bit before the crash that mattered. Someone shone a bright light in the drivers eyes and another car pushed Diana's off the road. The worst thing Diana could have done was marry Dodi and make him stepfather to Will & Harry & they couldn't let her do that

Annaram1 Fri 02-Sept-22 11:34:44

Diana would never have married Dodi. He was just the latest in a long string of boyfriends/lovers. His father may have wished it though.

MissAdventure Fri 02-Sept-22 11:38:02

I think Dodi's father would have been delighted had she married Dodi, but it really was still at the stage of getting to know eachother, and not many people liked Dodi once they did.

Sparklefizz Fri 02-Sept-22 11:42:33

Her real love was Hasnat Kahn and they were together for 2 years and she even met his family .... there was much more likelihood of her marrying him than Dodi.

JaneJudge Fri 02-Sept-22 11:43:38

It doesn't really matter how many boyfriends/lovers she had. She was free to do as she pleased as she was no longer married. She was quite open about her mental health struggles and I'm sure that was helpful to lots of people, as was her charitable work.

Vintagenonna Fri 02-Sept-22 11:49:04

Mr. Al Fayd lost a son and, as far as I know, is very unwell himself. I wonder if his health difficulties had already begun to manifest themselves in what he said & did.

MissAdventure Fri 02-Sept-22 11:51:50

Dodi absolutely was the apple of his eye.

Dillonsgranma Fri 02-Sept-22 11:56:26

It was very odd that she had been partially embalmed before her sister and Charles arrived to fetch her home . The embalming would have hidden any pregnao

JaneJudge Fri 02-Sept-22 11:57:39

why would embalming be unusual and conceal a pregnancy?

SiobhanSharpe Fri 02-Sept-22 12:02:02

The crash was an accident but it did present an opportunity.
When I was in a media organisation there were colleagues who were suspected of being too close to the security services, or even being former members thereof.
It would not be unusual if any of the papparazzi who routinely followed Diana around had similar links.
Photos were taken of the dying princess in the car after the crash and a quick phone call to a hot line was very possible. Delays might have been ordered.
It took well over an hour to get her to a hospital, in central Paris, a much smaller city than London. Equipment in an ambulance could not possibly compare with what is available in a modern hospital.
Not a fail proof scenario and almost certainly not involving members of the RF but but still an opportunity that could be taken advantage of by those with agendas to advance.

JdotJ Fri 02-Sept-22 12:04:14

nanna8

Sorry but It am still convinced she was murdered. People lie, including those ‘investigators’. She knew it would happen, she predicted it in a letter that they overlooked and forgot to destroy.

Did they refuse to let her wear a seat belt?

Glorianny Fri 02-Sept-22 12:04:53

JaneJudge

why would embalming be unusual and conceal a pregnancy?

The usual process is to keep a body in cold storage until after it has been IDd. According to accounts it was put in a side room and decay had already started so it was embalmed. Quite why there wasn't a proper mortuary place available doesn't ever seem to be asked. Lots of funeral places and most hospitals have them.

Glorianny Fri 02-Sept-22 12:08:37

Actually the whole question of seatbelts has been queried. The body guard who was wearing one had substantial face and head injuries. Diana who wasn't looked uninjured. As the car was travelling at speed and she had no belt she would have been thrown about during the crash but apparently without injury apart from the internal ones.

SiobhanSharpe Fri 02-Sept-22 12:20:12

I believe Diana did normally wear a safety belt which was fastened for her by one of her security team as they put her in the car.
The security man who accompanied her was new, may have been unaware of the procedure and that her belt was not fastened. Maybe she said she'd do it herself. Who knows?

grandtanteJE65 Fri 02-Sept-22 12:29:34

Why rake this over now?

Diana's death certainly looked suspicious at the time, but it did not help either then or now that so many unfounded rumours and theories were published, quite irresponsibly by serious newspapers.

Personally, I always wondered why any member of the Royal Family thought she was in any way suitable as a wife for Prince Charles. She always came across as far too sensitive a young woman to deal the limelight, and certainly not the kind to deal with a husband who had apparently no intention of dismissing his mistress.

Let the poor woman rest in peace. Her death was tragic, but all deaths at her age are.

grandtanteJE65 Fri 02-Sept-22 12:36:43

Dillonsgranma

It was very odd that she had been partially embalmed before her sister and Charles arrived to fetch her home . The embalming would have hidden any pregnao

Not odd at all. Many people are embalmed these days even if the funeral is to be held immediately.

Do any of you know, I certainly do not, what the normal procedure is for a member of the Royal Family?

Embalming fluid would not hide a pregnancy, but it seems most likely that the pregnancy was a totally unfounded rumour. At the time, the newspaper that first published it claimed to have been told about it by the doctor she had consulted.

No doctor would have let himself been tricked into making that admission and would certainly not voluntarily have told a journalist details of a professional consultation.

undines Fri 02-Sept-22 12:38:10

I agree, Nanna. None of us want to believe in conspiracies because if the ones involving our government are true then it shakes our faith in our institutions and makes us feel very insecure. Newsflash - we ARE insecure. People get into power most often through not caring about others, and I fear we are to a large extent governed by sociopaths. I'm not sure exactly what was going on re Diana, maybe it was an opportunist semi-murder, because they'd been wanting for a while to bump her off - who knows? But she was an embarrassment to the Royal Family, poor woman. As for conspiracies in general - why would there NOT be? Corrupt, unscrupulous people getting together to manipulate situations - makes perfect sense to me. Having said this, one must retain a healthy scepticism - not every conspiracy theory is going to be true.

Coco51 Fri 02-Sept-22 12:39:47

The accident investigator said the crash was survivable had they been wearing seatbelts. Diana’s bodygard did and survivived. Paul Burrel said in an interview that she was ’unstable’ when she predicted she would be killed in a car crash. Can conspiracy theorists imagine that the Royal Family would be so cruel as to put those poor little princes through so much trauma as to take their mother away from them? The Duke of Edinburgh had an horrendous childhood with his mother mentally ill and his father taking off. From the age of ten to 16 he never saw his mother until the funeral of his favourite sister after their deaths in a plane crash. He would not have subjected his grandsons to the same bereavement. Diana was sufficiently paranoid to say Camilla PB was a ’decoy’ and Charles wanted to marry Tiggy Legg-Bourke who had aborted the prince’s baby! Since Charles married Camilla it is obvious that there was a great deal of delusion un Diana’s mental health.

MissAdventure Fri 02-Sept-22 12:43:59

Is Burrell completely trustworthy?
I can't remember who, but one of Diana's other confidantes has said that she has never seen or been told any of the things written in the letter Burrell kept.

Coco51 Fri 02-Sept-22 13:18:56

Princess Grace of Monaco abeautiful young woman also died in a car crash (1982) should we question whether that was murder? Some of the newspaper journalists admitted their stories about Diana were not based in truth. As one said it was in their interests to keep the conspiracy stories going to sell papers.
Richard Tomlinson had a gripe against MI6 and his allegations related to a purported plot to kill a Serb. He admitted that his idea of the tunnel and bright lights to cause a car crash emanated from that. As to MI6 carrying out assassinations, they do not have a ‘licence to kill’. If they did, surely Putin would be long dead