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Is he serious? Johnson in touch with reality again.

(70 Posts)
HousePlantQueen Thu 01-Sept-22 14:13:59

Johnson on TV today. Telling those with an old kettle to buy a new one for around £20 to save yourself £10 a year on electricity.

FannyCornforth Mon 05-Sept-22 18:25:43

HPQ I think that this was the very point that Johnson was making

HousePlantQueen Mon 05-Sept-22 17:34:16

I am obviously too dim to appreciate the wit of Johnson as he compared the purchase of a new kettle to a nuclear power station, but I am clever enough to know that it takes decades to get one built and commissioned. As I understand it, the last Labour government, in particular the Brown era, gave the go ahead for nuclear power stations as long ago as 2009. The Tories have been in power for 13 years and cannot surely keep blaming inadequacies in the energy sector on a previous administration, even if is a Labour one.

4allweknow Mon 05-Sept-22 08:37:48

Why was BJ able to make an announcement of the nuckear plant being built costing billions yet any announcement on financial support for the masses and business has had to be held over until the new PM is announced?

Granless Sun 04-Sept-22 22:09:23

My friend bought a kettle to go on gas hob and puts in two cups of water to make two hot drinks. Apparently her electric kettle was far dearer to use - Smart meter said so.

MayBee70 Sun 04-Sept-22 21:45:49

vegansrock

If it was an analogy it was a rubbish one, and shows that he thinks most people are too stupid to understand that nuclear power stations are a long term investment.

Exactly. He should speak to the electorate as if they were intelligent human beings.

vegansrock Sun 04-Sept-22 21:38:39

If it was an analogy it was a rubbish one, and shows that he thinks most people are too stupid to understand that nuclear power stations are a long term investment.

MayBee70 Sun 04-Sept-22 21:29:21

Maybe if he spoke in a statesmanlike way it wouldn’t have happened. Instead he reduces everything to third rate journalism. Because he’s a third rate journalist. And, hopefully, that’s what he’ll go back to doing in the future.

Secondwind Sun 04-Sept-22 20:53:13

Sorry - I didn’t realise that this had already been pointed out.

Secondwind Sun 04-Sept-22 20:52:09

I despise Johnson I never ever thought that I’d be defending him, but this is a great example of things being taken out of context. He’s actually using it as an analogy of money you’d save by having nuclear power stations.
It’s towards the end of this clip:

youtu.be/5vMf2cDRpyg

The manipulation on social social media is something that should make all of us stop and think.

cazmum Sun 04-Sept-22 19:26:33

Catscatscats
I'd better get my megaphone out then!

Bea65 Sun 04-Sept-22 18:02:26

so where has Dominic Raab been hiding...escaped into oblivion...hope we don't hear from him again next week he is a real Ghost...why as I asked in earlier threads, where has he been and what is the point of a GHOST deputy!

CatsCatsCats Sun 04-Sept-22 17:32:58

cazmum Not at all, but the Labour supporters are much 'louder'.

NannyC1 Sun 04-Sept-22 17:30:25

People need to read Full Facts. I don't like Johnson but he has been misquoted.

undines Sun 04-Sept-22 17:02:57

What's happening is frightening, but too many people are sleepwalking, lulled by rhetoric and their own prejudices and habits. I think there will be riots this winter, with even some members of the police force going to food banks. If the Conservatives get their way, however, strikes and demonstrations will be virtually against the law. It's time for some direct action, but my husband (erstwhile Greenpeace activist, etc.) believes the will is not there any more and that people will just mutter and shuffle along. Maybe it's just us baby-boomers who knew how to protest! I hope not! I'm so pleased to read that plenty of people on this site can recognise what's happening.

MayBee70 Sun 04-Sept-22 16:58:10

OldRose

I cannot abide Johnson, but in this case he's been taken out of context. He was likening investing in a nuclear power plant, at great cost, with buying an energy efficient kettle for £20 to save £10 pa. Not that it matters, the "buy a kettle and save £10" is all over social media, it will go down as one of the stupidest things he DIDN'T say/?

Well it serves him right for blaming everything on everybody else. I don’t know which programme it was but it was pointed out that previous governments had promised no end of nuclear power stations and had produced one. And current Conservative governments over the past 12 or so years haven’t even produced one.

Romola Sun 04-Sept-22 16:38:28

Truss is going to have a tough time. Two-thirds of MPs didn't vote for her. Will there be a vote of no confidence?
Please, Labour members, get behind Starmer. He may seem dull but so did Attlee. And Starmer doesn't spook the electorate unlike Corbyn.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 04-Sept-22 16:38:21

cazmum

Am I right in believing that all Gransnetters are Labour supporters?

I think that you can safely assume that if GN reflects the nation at large than most do not vote Tory.

cazmum Sun 04-Sept-22 16:30:41

Am I right in believing that all Gransnetters are Labour supporters?

OldRose Sun 04-Sept-22 16:19:34

I cannot abide Johnson, but in this case he's been taken out of context. He was likening investing in a nuclear power plant, at great cost, with buying an energy efficient kettle for £20 to save £10 pa. Not that it matters, the "buy a kettle and save £10" is all over social media, it will go down as one of the stupidest things he DIDN'T say/?

Callistemon21 Sun 04-Sept-22 15:47:36

I boil a kettle of water to use rather than heating up potatoes in cold water on the hob.
hmm perhaps I should check.

Polly7 Sun 04-Sept-22 15:38:04

Will it still remain cheaper to boil kettle on hob or switch it on?
I need a kettle!!! ?????

FB market here i come ?

Polly7 Sun 04-Sept-22 15:35:08

I was staggered the suggestion to lower taxes without mention that it doesn’t help the lowest paid a jot as you don’t pay tax under 12k?‍♀️
Iv come to conclusion need idiot guide advertised
Eg. If you get monthly pension of £800 and pay £450 say on energy pm,
After paying council tax bills food unexspecteds , this leaves……….oh I forgot my little jalopy

HannahLoisLuke Sun 04-Sept-22 15:15:56

RichmondPark1

Two years to recoup your investment. He's not going to start a rush on kettle futures with that advice.

Anyway, isn't it cheaper to boil water in a pan on the gas hob?

The man's an ass hat.

I took the advice of a Gran on here a few weeks ago and bought a stove top kettle and it is indeed cheaper to boil it on the hob than use an electric kettle, so mines mothballed at the moment.

Nannina Sun 04-Sept-22 14:43:38

He’s jinxed my kettle -just over a year old, so just out of guarantee, and started tripping my electrics this morning

nipsmum Sun 04-Sept-22 14:41:26

I get the impression we are not hearing anything from our politicians because none of them know what to say far less what to do. They rabbit on about nothing because they don't have a clue what's required.