Boris Back by Christmas! ?

Germanshepherdsmum

That was my understanding of the reference too, Maizie. I believe he will be back - time will tell.

Cincinnatus = well known enemy of the people,

So apt description/choice

ruthie2

To add my voice to the minority above (and let's hope there's an additional silent majority out there) - I have always supported Boris, i have always said that Partygate was a stitch-up and I would be delighted if he were to return. And let me also refer to recent press coverage which said, the government now regrets that it gave Sage (scientists of doom) too much authority, and allowed them to prioritise their own agenda and disregard the nation's economy.

Too much authority? The only piece of advice that I can see they followed was to recommend working from home if possible. But maybe that's what you're against?

Here's the situation at the end of 2020

" Full lockdown

What scientists recommended: They did not go as far as recommending a full lockdown on the scale of the one in the spring. This was also an outcome Prime Minister Boris Johnson has been extremely keen to avoid.

What happened: The government opted for a three-tier system in England, with household mixing indoors banned only in the areas of highest concern. Businesses will broadly remain open.

Circuit-breaker

What they recommended: Sage said government should consider a short lockdown of two or three weeks, immediately, to bring down the number of cases.

What happened: This idea was rejected by No 10 in favour of an option that keeps businesses open and household contact going for most of the country, but with the threat that such privileges could be taken away if cases rise.

Going to work

What they recommended: The scientists recommended people be advised to work from home if they could.

What happened: Those who can were once again being advised to work from home, in a reversal of the government's drive over summer to encourage more people back to the workplace .

Mixing with other households

What they recommended: The advisory group said government should consider immediately putting a stop to contact between households, unless they were part of a support bubble.

What happened: Mixing with other households indoors has been banned for people living in areas on "high" or "very high" alert. Outdoor mixing is allowed in groups of no more than six.

Pubs and restaurants

What they recommended: Sage said government should consider the immediate closure of closure of all bars, restaurants, cafes, indoor gyms, and "personal services", for example hairdressers.

What happened: The government largely rejected the advice. Most of England can continue going to pubs and restaurants.

Schools, colleges and universities

What they recommended: Sage recommended all university and college teaching should be carried out online "unless absolutely essential", but schools should continue in person.

What happened: Schools and universities remain open - although many universities moved teaching online anyway due to outbreaks."

So she got in then? I was totally busy all day yesterday so no news or tv on but how has she done that if her own party are already against her? I think all politics is probably a fix tbh.Gawd havent they realised yet that installing the women never works?- it works even less than having Boris in!!!

Ive no time for anyone still supporting Boris?

Oh well Liz Truss has done some good Priti Patel has gone!! Mind I'd be very worried if I was Liz, PP is probably plotting to Bring Back Boris (has a ring to it!)

Me neither, nor the Tory party Nannan2,

Glorianny

Oh well Liz Truss has done some good Priti Patel has gone!! Mind I'd be very worried if I was Liz, PP is probably plotting to Bring Back Boris (has a ring to it!)

But it's widely thought that she'll be replaced by Suella Braverman. I can't see that as an improvement.

I know exactly what he’s up to now.

After his unbelievably self aggrandising, boastful leaving speech today; I’ve realised that he’s absolutely cracked it.

It’s as if Truss is his minion; that actually being PM is beneath him (something that I suspect that he’s always thought).
He’s going to be Prime Minister at Large.
All the praise and kudos; with zero responsibility or accountability.

He is going to swan around the world stage, like Blair did, and make huge sackfuls of dosh.

We really are shackled to him.
It’s Boris’s world and we’re just living in it.

Germanshepherdsmum

Did Ruthie say she read the Mail? I obviously missed that. A lot of Conservative voters do read the broadsheets. I’m one of them.

If she read a broadsheet or two she might have a slightly different opinion.

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Yet again a discussion, a differing of opinions, descends into snide comments about the Daily Mail and those who may or may not read it.

We all know by now that the sanctimonious Guardian is the Bible on here but the fact is, like it or not, the Mail is Britain’s top selling daily newspaper.

I’ve always felt the criticism is particularly unfounded as it has certainly not been afraid to criticise the government, to hold it to account on many occasions.

The Mails circulation is plummeting.

I read the Daily Mail!
I find it entertaining fluff.
I don’t rely upon it to decide my political (or otherwise opinions) for me, or use it as an echo chamber.

Maybe people are reading it online to save money, although the online version is different.

I read it on a Saturday as I like the TV magazine that goes with it it’s very easy reading and yes it does criticise Johnson but it also supports him. I take it’ opinions and findings with a pinch of salt

Yes, BOB the TV listings magazines are as good as the Radio Times

FannyCornforth

I read the Daily Mail!
I find it entertaining fluff.
I don’t rely upon it to decide my political (or otherwise opinions) for me, or use it as an echo chamber.

DH just bought MoS and Monday's Mail this week.
I want to read Sue Barker's story ?

I can't watch Question of Sport any more with Paddy McGinty, liked how Sue Barker presented it.

Oh, yes, we buy the Saturday one just for the TV listings and Monty Don.

I expect I'm persona non grata on GN now.

Back to the topic, sorry and I will go away and read about Sue and Cliff.

He’ll just keep spouting all the lies he always did, so often that more people will believe him. Here’s the Fact Check.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/62806217

JanSan

Of course the rest of Europe were vaccinated but surely it was a time scale thing. Boris broke away from Europe to set up our own R & D for a vaccine and we started the vaccine programme a lot earlier no doubt saving lives. Keir wanted us to join the European effort. Its amazing how people easily forget about Covid and the furlough support given out The country would have been in a totally different position financially without a pandemic

By breaking away from joint EU price discussions, he has forced the UK to pay a lot more for the vaccines. Not all figures are available, as suppliers did a deal with EU and contracted them into no disclosure. But it goes in billions- billions of unnecessary debt for the UK (never mind the PPE and other debacles!).

For instance, the UK paid £25 approx for each Moderna dose, wherease the EU, as a join and much bigger buyer, paid £13. About the same for Pfizer. For the AstraZ vaccine, the UK paid 2.17 dose and the EU 1.56. Multiply that by the number of vaccinations, and the sum is massive. The EU caught up very quickly with vaccinations, were stricter with restrictions and had quite a lot fewer deaths per 100000.

So Johnson could have bargained as part of EU, got a much lower price and saved huge sums of money, and with more careful earlier restricitions and not sending elderly people back to Nursing homes without testing- saved many more lives too.

Other countries suffered the debilitating effect and cost of the pandemic, and supported workers- but NONE of them are in this mess. They are also very much affected by the war in Ukraine in many ways.

He's not out PM anymore get over it and move on.

Who is going to pay all the debts? Liz Truss is inheriting a humongous catalogue of his terrible and massively expensive mistakes (and that is just for the money part!).

MaizieD

Glorianny

Oh well Liz Truss has done some good Priti Patel has gone!! Mind I'd be very worried if I was Liz, PP is probably plotting to Bring Back Boris (has a ring to it!)

But it's widely thought that she'll be replaced by Suella Braverman. I can't see that as an improvement.

Has she given us THAT list yet? Oh no, she has not!

Will Truss only appoint ERG members to her Cabinet (the reason they appointed her as their puppet).

Maudi

He's not out PM anymore get over it and move on.

Isn't the whole point of this thread that he has not really gone, and probably intends to come back, like Trump.

As for Suela Braverman, here is the most excruciating interview ever

www.indy100.com/politics/suella-braverman-interview-channel-4

He won't come back do you think the Tory party are going to put Boris forward if there is a general election I don't think so. As for Suella Braverman I like her I hope she can stop the dinghies and the Albanian gangs but I won't hold my breath.

Did you by any chance watch the video in the link?