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Boris Back by Christmas! ?

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FannyCornforth Sun 04-Sept-22 11:55:38

The plotting to get shut of Truss of is already underway.
But the good news is that it could lead to a General Election
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-leadership-challenge-vote-b2159270.html?amp

llizzie2 Mon 05-Sept-22 18:51:08

The saddest thing about the whole sorry business is that we now have GOVERNMENT BY THE PRESS and the BBC is the worst. The listening and watching public must surely have realised that by now. They have interfered in UK relationships with other countries and may cause untold damage in many ways than our own politics. One day the world will turn it's back on the British Government because of the overwhelming interference by the BBC.

Every time I think of the Russians invading and taking the Crimea via a referendum I think of the comments made over the Scottish Referendum which was voted out. I have noticed they have had some of the reporting of the Ukrainian invasion by Russia shortened, and there is very little from the reporter in Russia now.

No matter who it is, the BBC think they have a right to rubbish them, and how you make them stop is something someone should do something about.

The worst they do is to interview their own journalists pretending they are independent people with a view. They are not. The only really independent interviewer is Stephen Sacker, and he is so good at his job that no one would dare try it on him.

Dickens Mon 05-Sept-22 19:00:07

Suzey

Peri or menopausal no thanks

... good grief!

Women go through menstruation, pregnancy, childbirth, motherhood, perimenopause and menopause.

Not much of a window of opportunity for them is there?

And anyway, not all menopausal women suffer either - some sail through.

Whatever I think of Truss (not a lot), I'm not going to hold that against her.

Where's the sisterhood, eh?

And, just to add a bit of 'whataboutery' - middle-aged men can also be a PITA as the ageing process catches up with them - especially when they set out to prove that they've still 'got it'!

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 05-Sept-22 19:19:25

Well said, Dickens.

Normandygirl Mon 05-Sept-22 20:51:54

CatsCatsCats

Normandygirl I note your source was the French media. Hmmm. I think that's exactly the kind of thing they would say, don't you?

Don't you remember the total paddy the EU threw when they couldn't get the vaccinations as quickly as they liked, once they had finally stopped dithering about them?

The data that was used for the " league" table comes from the WHO, or do you think that they are against the UK as well?
If you believe that only the British media tells you the truth it's no wonder the UK is in the sorry state it's in.

Dinahmo Mon 05-Sept-22 22:09:44

BlueBelle

Oh my flipping word people actually saying they want Johnson back I m going down Alice’s rabbit hole and stay there
Yea I think Johnson is expecting to come up smelling of roses and judging by some people even posting on Gn he probably will
I think Truss has been set up by those awful people just so
she ll fail and people will say oh Johnson (no they ll say Boris like he’s their cousin or brother) will sort it all out
I want to leave uk and if I was younger I would I m hating it soooooooooo much

We left for France 15 years ago. Most of our friends thought we were very brave to move to a new country, even one with which they are all familiar. Some of them now wish that they'd been brave enough to do the same.

Dinahmo Mon 05-Sept-22 22:16:15

Ashcombe

^My DH is registered for healthcare in France where he lives and his vaccinations occurred a few months after mine, despite us being of similar age.^

Coincidentally, following my comment on this thread earlier today, DH (aged 73) just received a phone call offering him his fourth booster on the 16th September. I'm under the NHS and have heard nothing. I'm 72.

The 4th booster was made available to us wef 7th April for all those between 60 and 79. The only proviso was that you could not have it until 6 months after your previous jab. I went to our local pharmacie and made an appointment for the earliest date possible which for us was mid June.

After the early confusion with computers crashing under the weight of people trying to make appointments the system in France operated very smoothly, particularly after the pharmacies became involved.

orly Mon 05-Sept-22 23:08:52

Like the Blair/Brown years?

ruthie2 Tue 06-Sept-22 03:29:27

To add my voice to the minority above (and let's hope there's an additional silent majority out there) - I have always supported Boris, i have always said that Partygate was a stitch-up and I would be delighted if he were to return. And let me also refer to recent press coverage which said, the government now regrets that it gave Sage (scientists of doom) too much authority, and allowed them to prioritise their own agenda and disregard the nation's economy.

vegansrock Tue 06-Sept-22 06:45:06

Those who support Johnson obviously don’t mind being led by someone with no honesty, integrity or morality. The fact that everything in this country is so much worse than 10 years ago - NHS, social care, education, utilities, water and air quality is nothing to do with the government?

Lilyflower Tue 06-Sept-22 07:11:21

No need to panic as he won’t be back.

LizzieDrip Tue 06-Sept-22 08:35:18

Johnson’s boasting about the ‘world beating’ vaccine rollout is pure gaslighting. He is changing the narrative of what actually happened during the early days of the pandemic to suit himself - classic gaslighting behaviour. Of course the number of excess Covid deaths in the UK is never mentioned. Deaths per 100,000 of population stats:

Kingdom275.49
Russia262.74
Ukraine248.73
Portugal240.54
Serbia238.25
Spain236.43
Austria230.83
France230.54
Liechtenstein219.37
Andorra199.31
Estonia198.8
Sweden190.58
Luxembourg179.04
Kosovo176.93
Germany176.01
Ireland156.76
Switzerland155.86

I could go on. Someone said earlier in this thread that people have forgotten about Covid. Many of us haven’t - particularly those who lost loved ones. Johnson’s actions (or lack of actions) are responsible. The man is an evil gaslighter and should never be allowed anywhere near government. Where is the Covid enquiry!

LizzieDrip Tue 06-Sept-22 08:37:06

*United Kingdom

Parsley3 Tue 06-Sept-22 08:42:37

Nothing to worry about regarding a return. He says he is going back to his plough.

Dickens Tue 06-Sept-22 09:11:41

ruthie2

To add my voice to the minority above (and let's hope there's an additional silent majority out there) - I have always supported Boris, i have always said that Partygate was a stitch-up and I would be delighted if he were to return. And let me also refer to recent press coverage which said, the government now regrets that it gave Sage (scientists of doom) too much authority, and allowed them to prioritise their own agenda and disregard the nation's economy.

In reality, under our first-past-the-post electoral system, winning a majority of seats does not mean that the majority of people support you.

The mood of the country at the moment would seem to indicate that the 'silent majority' is anything but.

As for Partygate, Johnson obfuscated, twisted and turned over the affair. If he'd just come clean and held his hands up and apologised, it could have been a storm in a teacup. Sure, it was used as a ploy against him by those with vested interests - but this too could have been avoided had he not tried to wriggle out of an obligation he imposed on others and which he chose to ignore.

Parsley3 Tue 06-Sept-22 09:21:05

twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1567051322423140353?t=sJRiIn4XosQ8mel5aC9l2g&s=19

The end of an error era.

Barmeyoldbat Tue 06-Sept-22 09:38:20

I suggest Ruthie you read a decent paper and stop reading the mail

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 06-Sept-22 09:41:57

Did Ruthie say she read the Mail? I obviously missed that. A lot of Conservative voters do read the broadsheets. I’m one of them.

MaizieD Tue 06-Sept-22 09:56:44

Parsley3

Nothing to worry about regarding a return. He says he is going back to his plough.

As I understand it the Cincinnatus reference was to the fact that he left his farming to save Rome from deadly peril. The egomaniac is referring to what he thinks will be his inevitable return to the top job...

In the meantime he will do his level best to undermine Truss. Whether this means he will bother to turn up to Parliament as a backbencher, or he intends to campaign via his client media remains to be seen.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 06-Sept-22 09:59:18

That was my understanding of the reference too, Maizie. I believe he will be back - time will tell.

MaizieD Tue 06-Sept-22 10:09:20

Germanshepherdsmum

That was my understanding of the reference too, Maizie. I believe he will be back - time will tell.

I'm pinning my hopes on the Privileges Committee, GSM. If his constant deliberate lying to Parliament doesn't earn him a suspension and a recall petition there is no justice left in the UK.

Parsley3 Tue 06-Sept-22 10:15:35

twitter.com/wmarybeard/status/1567039650027413506?t=yIbMBcZnZoYmoRU9sET5Dw&s=19

Perhaps he was telling us something after all.

Glorianny Tue 06-Sept-22 10:16:14

Had lunch with a lovely friend who is a confirmed tory. When we talked about Boris she said "Aw leave the poor man alone." So some are already painting him as a victim, who has been picked on. I've a feeling he will be back!

MaizieD Tue 06-Sept-22 10:19:19

Have you not read the two posts above yours, Parsely?

Here's another tweet, responding to his pathetic 'they changed the rules' comment

Rachel Clarke
@doctor_oxford
·
51m
When @BorisJohnson raised this glass and chortled, 60,000 of us still lived, still breathed, who, only three months later, would be dead

Never, never forget.

THIS is his true legacy. He threw that wine into the faces of us all.

See the original tweet for the picture she refers to..

twitter.com/doctor_oxford/status/1567067913688956928

Fleurpepper Tue 06-Sept-22 10:20:54

LizzieDrip

Johnson’s boasting about the ‘world beating’ vaccine rollout is pure gaslighting. He is changing the narrative of what actually happened during the early days of the pandemic to suit himself - classic gaslighting behaviour. Of course the number of excess Covid deaths in the UK is never mentioned. Deaths per 100,000 of population stats:

Kingdom275.49
Russia262.74
Ukraine248.73
Portugal240.54
Serbia238.25
Spain236.43
Austria230.83
France230.54
Liechtenstein219.37
Andorra199.31
Estonia198.8
Sweden190.58
Luxembourg179.04
Kosovo176.93
Germany176.01
Ireland156.76
Switzerland155.86

I could go on. Someone said earlier in this thread that people have forgotten about Covid. Many of us haven’t - particularly those who lost loved ones. Johnson’s actions (or lack of actions) are responsible. The man is an evil gaslighter and should never be allowed anywhere near government. Where is the Covid enquiry!

The fact he by-passed common EU negotiations on buying in bulk, thus lowering the price for all - has saddled the UK with massive debts as we paid much much more than EU for vaccines. They caught up very quickly with vaccinations, and took measures to lower transmission much earlier and better.

Longdot20 Tue 06-Sept-22 10:22:12

Just popped back in to see what is happening on GN and feel I must say I liked Boris (cant say that for a lot of the PM’s) he got a lot of things done for the country in its worse crisis since the war. OK he’s not perfect but then who is? (Smile)