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Period Dignity Officer post scrapped!

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grannydarkhair Tue 06-Sept-22 17:54:09

As my heading says. Personally, I think that common-sense should have been applied in the first place, and a woman appointed to the position.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-62807683

Lathyrus Tue 06-Sept-22 22:34:28

JaneJudge

Lathyrus

Hooray for the pill. It did just that -amongst other benefits?

not all women can take the pill or use hormonal contraception. Do you think more women know about that than men?

I was just trying to be witty about turning them on and off. Sorry.

Time for bed obviously.

volver Tue 06-Sept-22 22:36:57

FarNorth

volver :
Because they have a not-very-effective PR company.

So the publicity gave completely the wrong idea, rather than people jumping to unreasonable conclusions?

Surely the 4 people in charge of this period dignity campaign had a say in the publicity? It can't have been left to the PR company to dream up what the job might be about?

I guess you've not worked in marketing in a large, underfunded organisation FarNorth ? They let him wear a red top too. ?

Perhaps they thought people would actually find out the facts of the matter before they got the pitchforks out.

Callistemon21 Tue 06-Sept-22 22:37:06

JaneJudge

Lathyrus

Hooray for the pill. It did just that -amongst other benefits?

not all women can take the pill or use hormonal contraception. Do you think more women know about that than men?

I agree, not everyone can take it.

I was just trying to be witty about turning them on and off Sorry

Don't apologise, but it's a long story and I won't bore you ?

JaneJudge Tue 06-Sept-22 22:38:30

sorry that was most probably quite direct blush

As a massive bleeder I have heard it all unfortunately. I have wondered also what do people provide to food banks wrt this as my workplace provide the cheapest/lightest products which would render most of the their female force confined to the toilets

FarNorth Tue 06-Sept-22 22:43:27

No I haven't volver.

Perhaps they thought people would actually find out the facts of the matter before they got the pitchforks out.

They deliberately put out misleading publicity while hoping that people wouldn't accept what they were being shown and would look further? To where?

(I commented about the red top in a previous thread and had several posters tell me I was being silly.)

volver Tue 06-Sept-22 22:58:26

The red top thing is silly and it shows how extreme people are in their thinking about this.

Perhaps the PR company credited their audience with some common sense?

Rosie51 Tue 06-Sept-22 23:48:59

So we have an a not-very-effective PR company or if that doesn't work a PR company who credited their audience with some common sense? or if neither of these work I'm sure volver can come up with some alternatives. Regardless, the upshot is that a role that was regarded as essential has been ditched because a man received a tiny portion of what some women receive on a daily basis. Cry me a river.

Callistemon21 Tue 06-Sept-22 23:53:41

Who's their audience?

Surely the 4 people in charge of this period dignity campaign had a say in the publicity? It can't have been left to the PR company to dream up what the job might be about?
You'd think so, FarNorth

Strange picture, two men, one woman looking pleased and one young teenager whose body language looks as if she's rather not be there.

DorothyGlamour Wed 07-Sept-22 00:01:26

FFS. Can't believe this is all kicking off again with the same old comments being spewed out by some.

Rosie51 Wed 07-Sept-22 00:03:59

DorothyGlamour

FFS. Can't believe this is all kicking off again with the same old comments being spewed out by some.

What comments? Not an especially helpful or insightful post if you don't elaborate.

FarNorth Wed 07-Sept-22 00:16:49

They deliberately put out misleading publicity while hoping that people wouldn't accept what they were being shown and would look further? To where?

Comment on the silliness of the red top but no comment about this bit volver?

welbeck Wed 07-Sept-22 00:22:02

Farmor, thanks for that link; what a wacky family, but in an unamusing way, i just knew covid would come up...it's like bingo.
totally misleading headline.
and what a headache they are for the courts. and for anyone who has to have anything to do with them.

DorothyGlamour Wed 07-Sept-22 00:36:33

Rosie51 there is a previous thread that started when the job was announced. Lots of the comments on that are the same or very similar to lots on here. It is quite clear that far too many people still fail to understand what the job is/ was about but continue to comment despite this.

FarNorth Wed 07-Sept-22 00:53:41

No wonder when the publicity was (apparently) completely misleading Dorothy.

Rosie51 Wed 07-Sept-22 01:02:03

DorothyGlamour

Rosie51 there is a previous thread that started when the job was announced. Lots of the comments on that are the same or very similar to lots on here. It is quite clear that far too many people still fail to understand what the job is/ was about but continue to comment despite this.

All I know is it's the female of the species that experience periods. One might suppose that a female perspective and understanding of the issues surrounding periods and their management could possibly be relevant? I'm supposing that a campaign addressing the issues of premature ejaculation or impotence amongst males might possibly be thought to be more easily understood by males rather than females? Then again, males are the more intelligent, aware beings of the human race, so who knows?

welbeck Wed 07-Sept-22 01:13:04

a workplace changed buildings.
in a meeting to discuss issues arising, a woman pointed out that the vending machines in the women's loos had disappeared.
a man asked how important this was in the middle of london. cue puzzled looks by the women.
he continued, i mean how urgent is the need.
he was a middle-aged environmental health officer.

DorothyGlamour Wed 07-Sept-22 01:15:19

Rosie51, the job did not require the person to have experienced periods. I don't imagine there would be any direct discussions between women experiencing periods and the job holder, whether make or female. Whether the job description will now be changed we will need to wait and see.

In terms of precise knowledge, there are both male and females gynaecologists so I don't agree that everyone needs to have experienced the precise situation to be good at the job.

But I'm not making any further comment as all of this has already been said elsewhere.

volver Wed 07-Sept-22 06:05:22

FarNorth

^They deliberately put out misleading publicity while hoping that people wouldn't accept what they were being shown and would look further? To where?^

Comment on the silliness of the red top but no comment about this bit volver?

Sorry FarNorth I went to bed.

I understand it must be galling for you when people don't do exactly what you want them to. For example, going to bed, or giving a job to someone you don't approve of.

Well I'll leave you all to congratulate yourselves that the outdated attitudes shown in this thread have cost someone their job, and made an innovative policy harder to implement. All because of ignorance and prejudice.

volver Wed 07-Sept-22 06:08:50

"the upshot is that a role that was regarded as essential has been ditched because a man received a tiny portion of what some women receive on a daily basis."

So, in your opinion it's ok for a man to be abused and threatened because some women are? These attitudes make me sick. The paranoia is overwhelming.

Kandinsky Wed 07-Sept-22 06:54:46

In some jobs, it really is best to take a sensitive, common sense approach - & this was such a job.
Could they really not find a woman good enough for the job?
I’m all for equality, but this seems like they deliberately chose a man just for the sake of it.
And from what I’m hearing on this thread it’s more an office based / coordinator type job, so a woman couldn’t do that?
It’s not a highly skilled job like a doctor where you accept a man may have to deliver your baby.
I wouldn’t expect a woman to be the face of a prostate cancer campaign for example.
Just because a man or a woman can do job, doesn’t mean it’s always right.
Should we have a man telling us how to breast feed or check our breasts for signs of cancer? A women isn’t good enough? hmm

Aveline Wed 07-Sept-22 06:57:22

The insensitivity of this appointment is stunning as is the inability to understand why women might be unhappy about it. I guess that requires a degree of empathy though.

VioletSky Wed 07-Sept-22 07:26:26

Let's hope the misinformation campaign doesn't go after male
nurses, male midwives, male gynaecologists, male surgeons performing any female anatomy related surgery and male GPs who dare to prescribe the pill or HRT or dares to refer women to the rest of the list

Sigh

Kandinsky Wed 07-Sept-22 07:36:53

VioletSky

In a lot of cases regarding intimate health care, women are offered the option of seeing a female gp, especially in cultural/ religious cases.

VioletSky Wed 07-Sept-22 07:43:22

I'm aware of that Kadinsky and I am also aware that if every woman made that choice, many women would suffer as a result due to lack of staff available

VioletSky Wed 07-Sept-22 07:45:35

And I'm afraid that try as we might, we cannot make up the ratios to 50/50 because of who generally chooses maternity leave or part time hours to raise children or the fact that a lot of long term health problems tend to affect women more than men