King Charles III

I think the appropriate interrogative is Why.

I do know what I was asking, thank you MawtheMerrier.

And it's Grany, not Granny.

Perhaps not the best time really.

The thread is about our hopes for the future.

I thought that Charles's behaviour at the proclamation signing was dreadful TBH. His obvious annoyance at the placement of the inkwells and his snarling at the poor man to remove them , not once but twice, was not a good start. I don't think I ever saw the Queen do that in her whole 70 yr reign.

I totally agree Normandygirl. I was astonished to see such disrespectful, embarrassing behaviour at an important, historic moment for our country. The proclamation signing is part of history and the world will always be able to see it, I am certainly not perfect but I do know how to behave, especially at important occassions!

"especially at an important occasion"

?? I’m abroad and haven’t seen anything g about ink pots? Can someone enlighten me. Hard to imagine Charles snarling at someone……

Lucca

?? I’m abroad and haven’t seen anything g about ink pots? Can someone enlighten me. Hard to imagine Charles snarling at someone……

The ink pots were in the wrong place, and got in the way when signing.

Charles didn’t ‘snarl’, well it didn’t look like that to me- he pulled a very pained face, and gestured frantically to some poor aide to move them.

The table upon which the large documents were placed was too small, there didn’t seem quite enough room for everything, and I can well imagine Charles was cross that things hadn’t been anticipated properly.

I think Camilla left the top of the ink well off, and William moved forward and discreetly replaced it. Well done that man!

Personally, I was sure that with all the different people stepping forward and signing this historical document, someone would either spill the ink or smear the signings!

As for the Queen never looking cross over such things, well, this was the first time such an historic occasion was televised, and I bet Charles was nervous enough without any other blips occurring.

Floral3

I totally agree Normandygirl. I was astonished to see such disrespectful, embarrassing behaviour at an important, historic moment for our country. The proclamation signing is part of history and the world will always be able to see it, I am certainly not perfect but I do know how to behave, especially at important occassions!

Cut the man some slack. He has just lost his mother but unlike us he cannot mourn her without the eyes of the world on him. As well as that he has to get on and do the things legally required. Again with the eyes of the world on him. Anyone watching could see the position of the inkwell was wrong. It should not have been placed where it was. Camilla signed over the top of the inkwell which looked most precarious. Everyone who signed moved the inkwell or signed around it. surely the aides should have seen the issue and addressed it.

I'm sure Charles knows how to behave at important occasions and perhaps some should walk a mile in his shoes before condemning him.

The King didn't appear to snarl, he fluttered his hands around and expected instantly help to appear and faff around with the inkwell. He merely looked inept for not taking care of an inkwell alone. Silly, really.

I found it reassuring that he is obviously a fussy man and a bit of a perfectionist. You wouldn’t want someone slack in his position . He was right to be annoyed , they bungled it .

It was bungled and it shouldn’t have been. My impression was he let the impact of recent days lose, very briefly. Like when we focus on something trivial when feeling stressed

Normandygirl

I thought that Charles's behaviour at the proclamation signing was dreadful TBH. His obvious annoyance at the placement of the inkwells and his snarling at the poor man to remove them , not once but twice, was not a good start. I don't think I ever saw the Queen do that in her whole 70 yr reign.

Perhaps when the Queen signed, there was more space on the table and the inkwells were not between the signer and the document?

Perhaps before her ceremony someone looked at the table from the signing side not the observer's side and arranged it accordingly.

Why did no-one move the pots the first time they were seen to be in the way, instead of waiting?

Oh he definitely snarled. I'll find the video later and post it.

Can you imagine if Meghan or Harry had made that face? Would everyone have been rushing to defend them?

volver

Oh he definitely snarled. I'll find the video later and post it.

Can you imagine if Meghan or Harry had made that face? Would everyone have been rushing to defend them?

Gracious. H&M again?

Yes. You can have me arrested for having a point of view, if you like.

People should ask themselves why they are happy to defend a bad tempered man in his seventies but not his sad son.

Well he did make a very angry face! - and who can blame him? What a complete pig's ear!

I do think volvers post is pertinent though.

Volver, I’m perfectly happy to continue to feel sympathy for King Charles and Prince Harry. Indeed for the entire family. Estrangement is painful for everyone involved. This family lives it private life with little protection from public scrutiny. I find it impossible to get wound up and ‘take sides’.

He was definitely huffy. Some might say rightly so as the placing of the ink wells was not well thought out for a ceremony that should have had meticulous planning especially as it was being televised for the first time. I think it threw him out and flustered him. He will need to control himself in public if he wishes to emulate the Queen. I imagine she would have found it amusing.

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44 seconds in. It wasn't an inkwell, it was a pen tray.

Defend him all you like. But just examine your consciences when you slag off another royal for holding hands with his wife.

I saw exasperation rather than a 'bad-temper' - the kind of emotion I feel when the thing I want in the supermarket is too high for me to reach again.
I'm pleased to see a man in a position of influence being able to show a range of feelings as King Charles has over the past few days.

You say that democracy and monarchy does mix I say it doesent let me explain.

There is no Elected Head of State it is hereditary by birth

The HoS can only do as the PM asks so has no role to play, remember Johnson wanted to porogue parliament.

An Elected Head of State would not be involved in politics by law, he or she would have limited powers to intervene in case the government were breaking the laws of our constitution. As good respected presidents in Germany or Ireland and others similarly do. A parliamentary HoS

A monarchy serves the polititions and Royals not the people. monarchy is there to serve its own interests.
As with Kings consent we discover on anti racism,environmental, and transparency these laws do not apply. King can vet llegislation that effect his private interests. With Charles and the Duchy of Cornwall he will not allow tennents who own their houses to buy the land as other landlords by law have to do. William now has the Duchy with £22 million a year and growing. More than all Heads of State in Europe combined.

Monarchy has no accountability they take jets and helicopters on their own interests and pastimes most of the time wasting public money as their work which is they that they attend they don't do much of throughout the year. So our HoS and family attend Is that what you call work is that what you want from a HoS? And exempt from the freedom of information act.

So Charles may slim down the monarchy maybe give up one of the several grand houses castles and palaces? What will that achieve for the people?

He did look annoyed certainly, but it was surely understandable that he was a bit tense and wanted everything in its correct place.
Where are you on holiday Lucca ?

volver

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44 seconds in. It wasn't an inkwell, it was a pen tray.

Defend him all you like. But just examine your consciences when you slag off another royal for holding hands with his wife.

Your wooden spoon is out early this morning, volver.

First mention of H&M has come from you, goading others.

Grany we shall see. I just don’t fancy Tony Blair, Trump, Biden, David Cameron et al as head of state. It will then be about who has the most money and backing to promote themselves and win. I can’t see that doing much for ordinary people. We might even end up with a Putin.

Charles has served a long apprenticeship under a master. Let’s see what happens.

Oh for goodness sake.

I'd quite like Zelenskyy. He had no money and a career as a comedian. And an electorate with a bit of faith in themselves and their fellow countrymen.