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King Charles III

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merlotgran Fri 09-Sept-22 10:49:12

I’m starting a thread so we can add our thoughts and hopes for the future. The King will address the nation at midday.

He and Camilla have my support although I know not everyone feels that way.

God Save the King.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 12-Sept-22 10:09:30

I’m sorry to hear about your Mum, volver. ? However consider what tickingbird says and that all this is happening in the public gaze with his every move commented upon. The pen tray and inkwell arrangement was ridiculous, as was the small table, and I’m not surprised he expressed frustration.

volver Mon 12-Sept-22 10:11:03

tickingbird

^The day after she died I was behaving like a human being, not taking it out on people I didn't know in public places^

No you go on social media and vent anonymously instead!

What a lovely person you are.

tickingbird Mon 12-Sept-22 10:21:17

You’re right I am. smile

Callistemon21 Mon 12-Sept-22 10:24:50

GrannyGravy13

Bigger table needed, simples

Perhaps he was worried that if it was in the way and he nudged it accidentally, the ink could spill over the documents, the carpet etc.
That would never be forgotten - for centuries.

Yes, the table was too small.

Callistemon21 Mon 12-Sept-22 10:30:35

Surprising as it may appear to some GNers, I have a soft spot for Charles

Yes, it is surprising volver. You've managed to keep that well hidden ?

ixion Mon 12-Sept-22 10:36:55

Currently receiving condolences at Westminster Hall.

Poor bloke, he looks knackered and has all the recognisable signs (I know from personal experience!) of a chap about to nod off ...
Is this really necessary - or, at least, couldn't it have waited a while longer? Or been contained in letters of condolence, to be read at a later date with a cuppa and his feet up?

icanhandthemback Mon 12-Sept-22 10:36:59

Yes, the table was too small but Prince Willian managed to act without the frustrated expression when he was left without a pain.

That said, I think all these ceremonies seem to be indecent haste. I can't help thinking that the family should be given at least 24 hours to grieve and get their heads together.

Watching the ceremony today, Charles seems to be hobbling and holding his hip a bit. He was sat in the chair like a sack of spuds and I suspect he is in quite a lot of pain so is uncomfortable. That can make you irritable in itself.

Lucca Mon 12-Sept-22 10:37:23

merlotgran

volver

www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/1568571445852393474

44 seconds in. It wasn't an inkwell, it was a pen tray.

Defend him all you like. But just examine your consciences when you slag off another royal for holding hands with his wife.

Your wooden spoon is out early this morning, volver.

First mention of H&M has come from you, goading others.

She’s not goading. Sorry but Volver makes a valid point.

volver Mon 12-Sept-22 10:38:23

GSM and GG13, thank you.

Calendargirl Mon 12-Sept-22 11:06:18

Seeing as Volver has brought up H&M, I will add my contribution.

At the Windsor Walkabout on Saturday, Meghan looked distinctly annoyed at one stage, when an aide offered to relieve her of some flowers. I don’t lip read, but she looked to be snapping at him.

Unlike Catherine, who dealt with the hand over of flowers in a more gracious manner.

Just saying.

smile

volver Mon 12-Sept-22 11:08:40

Perhaps she was mourning her grandmother-in-law and should be cut some slack.

Oh sorry, I forgot. It was Meghan. Off with her head.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 12-Sept-22 11:15:24

That’s a very charitable suggestion volver but given the way M has slagged off the RF I rather doubt she is mourning. She might possibly have been feeling guilty and unworthy of the attention and flowers. Catherine was much closer to the Queen but managed to behave graciously, as usual.

volver Mon 12-Sept-22 11:20:37

QED. ??‍♀️

Pantglas2 Mon 12-Sept-22 11:25:40

He didn’t snarl, he didn’t ‘steal’ a pen either...which was an allegation someone thought up because they don’t like royalty! Lawdy ?‍♀️

Lexisgranny Mon 12-Sept-22 11:27:20

In a spirit of fairness Calendargirl I have read elsewhere that a lip reader has said that Meghan was telling the aide that she had asked a member of the public if she wanted her to add her flowers to the others, and that she had agreed to do but “Thank you anyway.”

In the same spirit was fairness it is a little odd that Volver is suggesting that Meghan may have been mourning her grandfather and should be cut some slack, but elsewhere was not affording the same leeway to the King, who was mourning his mother. I believe the word snarling was used. Double standards here I think

volver Mon 12-Sept-22 11:28:54

Of course he didn't steal a pen.

He did snarl though.

Elegran Mon 12-Sept-22 11:30:53

Yes, it would have been kinder to give the Royal Family time to recover from the death of their mother and grandmother - but a monarchy has to move rapidly from "The King/Queen is dead" to "Long live the King/Queen" so that there is no vacuum in between where some other claimant can muscle in and take over. That is why the King is addressed as "Your Majesty" as soon as the doctors have pronounced his successor dead, and the accession formalities and signatures are done as soon as possible.

Lexisgranny Mon 12-Sept-22 11:33:16

Pantglas. One reads so much at times like this, but often they are apocryphal. However I saw that the King had chosen to use a treasured pen that had been a present sometime ago from William and Harry. Who knows, but I would agree with you in doubting whether he has to resort to pocketing pens that don’t belong to him.

Callistemon21 Mon 12-Sept-22 11:36:50

I think Meghan was nervous about what kind of reception she might get from the crowds. From snippets I saw, she was reasonably warmly received.

volver Mon 12-Sept-22 11:36:53

In the same spirit was fairness it is a little odd that Volver is suggesting that Meghan may have been mourning her grandfather and should be cut some slack, but elsewhere was not affording the same leeway to the King, who was mourning his mother. I believe the word snarling was used. Double standards here I think

Grandmother. In fact grandmother in law.

There have been suggestions that the King was tired, sad, mourning etc. I'm sure he was and I appreciate that. But people are queuing up to excuse him, while still not offering any understanding to Meghan in any circumstances. Now, or in the past.

Those are the double standards.

Callistemon21 Mon 12-Sept-22 11:38:57

70 years ago I presume all the normal protocols were observed too but most of us didn't have TVs so their every move was not scrutinised so closely.

Fleurpepper Mon 12-Sept-22 11:53:02

Elegran

Yes, it would have been kinder to give the Royal Family time to recover from the death of their mother and grandmother - but a monarchy has to move rapidly from "The King/Queen is dead" to "Long live the King/Queen" so that there is no vacuum in between where some other claimant can muscle in and take over. That is why the King is addressed as "Your Majesty" as soon as the doctors have pronounced his successor dead, and the accession formalities and signatures are done as soon as possible.

Yes, we know that. But honestly, I am shocked at all the criticism and watching of every gesture by people who should know better and be more tolerant, on GN. Most of us have got to the age where we have lost very close people we loved, and would not have wished our every move analysed and picked on.

Honestly!?!

Anniebach Mon 12-Sept-22 11:53:10

Megan may have been nervous, their last appearance at the
Church service for the jubilee they were booed

Elegran Mon 12-Sept-22 11:58:45

Fleurpepper There are always some who nit-pick and criticise, whatever the event or the stresses on those involved. Instant exposure on social media just make it more obvious - and the retorts to the nit-picking and criticisms appear faster and with less effort, too.

PamQS Mon 12-Sept-22 12:07:50

I was pleased that the crowds gave the King a cheer. In human terms, he must desperately need some encouragement at the moment without ‘Mama’ to turn to for her advice. I will support him for her sake.