I’m starting a thread so we can add our thoughts and hopes for the future. The King will address the nation at midday.
He and Camilla have my support although I know not everyone feels that way.
God Save the King.
Prentice
the recollections may vary statement very cleverly didn't state that lies had been told but neatly summed up what the royal family and many people too I dare say thought of Harry and Meghan and their victimhood status.
Or alternatively, that the late Queen had completely mis-remembered what was said and done, and underestimated what it meant to Meghan.
That's possible too, isn't it?
Or alternatively, that the late Queen had completely mis-remembered what was said and done, and underestimated what it meant to Meghan.
That's possible too, isn't it?
You make a very good point there and people will believe what they want to believe is possible.
The Queen seems to have had an excellent memory l
unfortunately, Meghan had already told a few questionable, stories by this time, so difficult to give her and Harry the benefit of the doubt.
during the Oprah interview she claimed that she couldn't get any help with her mental health problems, so very very unlikely.Also that she and Harry had really had their wedding
'in the back yard of Buckingham Palace' ahead of the wedding day.She made this highly misleading story appear to have been a real wedding to the US viewers.
When people can twist words in this way to suit their own agenda then it is hard to believe them at all.
When people can twist words in this way to suit their own agenda then it is hard to believe them at all.
Oh, you're quite right there.
oh yes indeed Volver
You’ve only got to go on a thread like this and see how every poster views situations according to their own previous experience, knowledge base and values to realise that it is absolutely true that recollections vary. It’s not a black and white one is right, one is wrong situation - it virtually never is.
Megan lied
Let us reserve judgement about things we cannot know. Accusing someone of lying should be reserved for situations where all the facts are known for sure.
It has been clear that more than one person has found joining the royal family to be very challenging. How they choose to deal with that will depend on their life experiences. I am sure we would all find it hard.
Fact - a marriage has to be registered, a marriage cannot be
registered twice , a birth can be registered twice
The Archbishop of Canterbury had to publicly deny that the earlier marriage alleged by Megan had taken place. She had put him in an invidious position with that particular lie.
Does anyone have a link to a video of what she actually said please, rather than a third hand interpretation?
A situation where the facts are known for sure
Anniebach
A situation where the facts are known for sure
And the video...?
volver
^When people can twist words in this way to suit their own agenda then it is hard to believe them at all.^
Oh, you're quite right there.
Oh you’re so right there.???
And the video...?
Watch the Oprah interview, volver
I'd rather run naked through the streets of Edinburgh 
I’d rather watch that Volver!???
I did some googling before I got my running shoes on...
It was thought the ceremony could not have been legal because it lacked witnesses and a registered venue, and was likely to have been an informal exchange of vows.
In an interview with la Repubblica, Mr Welby was asked about what happened and he said the legal wedding was on the Saturday, adding: " But I won't say what happened at any other meetings. "
In Scotland you used to be able to say you were married by just saying we're married. No churches, paperwork or clergy. Good thing, if you ask me.
Or, she could be a pathological liar intent on bringing down the British establishment including the CoE.
news.sky.com/story/meghan-and-harry-did-not-have-secret-backyard-wedding-before-the-public-ceremony-says-archbishop-of-canterbury-12261349#:~:text=The%20Archbishop%20of%20Canterbury%20has,Welby%20in%20their%20%22backyard%22.
I think everyone, including the Royals, might be able to find it in their hearts to forgive Meghan her stupid comments - the legalities of the wedding, the complexities of the children's titles, the passport confiscation etc. What is harder to forgive is the deliberate upset and hurt she caused Catherine which has obviously brought about the huge rift between Harry and William.
The King and Queen must be wearing Depends or something. They get whisked from reception to church service to reception with the cameras on them all the way and never get a comfort break. I have to go at least three times just while watching.
Perhaps they have better control over their bladders than you ReadyMeals.
A silent protest against the monarchy will take place in Cardiff as King Charles III visits the city tomorrow, September 16.
The protestors are meeting outside Cardiff Castle at 1pm to stand together, holding posters with the slogans: ‘Why a Monarchy? Divine Right of Kings? Real democracy now’.
Campaigners want the Welsh public to consider whether a different future, without the monarchy, is possible.
“As soon as King Charles III decided to announce that Prince William should become Prince of Wales, so soon after the death of the Queen, many of us felt compelled to respond,” Bethan Sayed, a former MS for Plaid Cymru and activist said.
“We must discuss the future of Wales, and what we want that to look like. Support for independence is on the rise, in two weeks a march and rally for independence will be held on the very streets that the new king will travel on.
“We need a National conversation about why the Royal family are born to lead over us. Why are we not fit to govern ourselves? Do we want to have a Wales free of the Monarchy? If so, what can that look like?
“People tell us that now is not the time to discuss this issue, however, when the monarchy passes from the incumbent to a new King, now is exactly the time to discuss this matter. It is about fairness, equality, and the Wales we want to shape for future generations.”
A petition against continuing with the Prince of Wales title has now hit 25,000 signatures, just under a week since it was started.
‘Now is the time to discuss’
Labour for an Independent Wales is supporting the action.
“Like our leader Mark Drakeford, we are republicans,” a representative said.
“Now is the best time to discuss how unfair the monarchy is and how unfitting it is for the 21st Century Wales we’re all building.
“Soon 67% of Welsh people will live in fuel poverty while the royals inherit millions, tax free. Our democracy is weakened by their presence and so, ultimately, we push for an independent, socialist, republic of Wales.”
Adam Johannes, organiser of recent protests in Cardiff over rising energy bills said: “Why so much promotion of an unelected Head of State as a common good?
“Is it so we accept as natural, good and right unelected owners of multinational corporations, unelected bankers, the whole panoply of unelected and unaccountable institutions that control and rule over our daily lives in today’s society?
“Do we want to live in a state of permanent austerity with undemocratic trappings like monarchy? Or a democratic republic guaranteeing every citizen the right to adequate food, housing and income.
“Let’s abolish the monarchy, expand democracy, and use the money we save to help people during the cost-of-living crisis.”
‘We need a debate’
Trade Unionist Cerith Griffiths said: “A lot has changed since Queen Elizabeth was crowned over 70 years ago.
“Significantly Wales now has its own Parliament and can pass legislation that makes a difference to those who live in Wales. In 2016 several aspects of the Trade Union Act were dis-applied in Wales but now the Westminster government is overruling those decisions taken by an elected Welsh government.
“If we truly value democracy, then we need to have a debate about the role of the monarchy, and whether them enabling the government of another country overruling the democratic decisions taken here in Wales, really is fit for the 21st century.”
Campaigners are calling upon Welsh Government and Cardiff Council leaders to ask the police to respect the democratic right to protest, given the example of the London Barrister Paul Powlesland, who was threatened with arrest if he wrote ‘Not my King’ on a blank piece of white paper in London this week.
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