King Charles III

Callistemon21

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Sorry, that was for volver's post, not yours, GSM

We had a rehearsal too, it wasn't in a garden, it was in church. Even though we were much younger and neither had previous experience of the marriage ceremony, we didn't think it was the real thing.

Anyway, it's academic and I don't really care one way or another because I know how a C of E marriage is performed. ??

Esspee, I had not known the King is so badly educated. May we hope that despite his bad education and/or intellectual ability he will help to save the environment, and the peacemakers?

And what has it to do with Charles 3 ? Why dragged up again ?

This is a red herring - way off the premise of the OP.

Lucca

And what has it to do with Charles 3 ? Why dragged up again ?

I wondered that too. It’s like Groundhog Day.

I've no idea and no idea why I joined in Lucca
It seemed a good idea at the time, trying to clarify.

Volver, marriage is indeed about money, wills,and religion.

The mystification of romantic love is a recent invention and if you read Jane Austen and the Brontes you can see romantic love accumulating its novel popularity.

It's got nothing to do with religion, neither of us in our marriage has a will and we have no joint accounts.

How dull life must be for people who get married while consumed by thoughts of money.

Marriage was also about conferring legitimacy on children at a time when an illegitimate child bore the mark of bastardy for life.

Caleo

Volver, marriage is indeed about money, wills,and religion.

The mystification of romantic love is a recent invention and if you read Jane Austen and the Brontes you can see romantic love accumulating its novel popularity.

I think Shakespeare had a good idea of what romantic love was

I think we have all learned by now not to believe a single word Meghan Markle says.
One of the most ludicrous though, and one which clearly illustrates the high regard she has of herself was when she recently claimed that people in South Africa were so overjoyed when she married Harry that they were rejoicing in the street in exactly the same way as they did when Nelson Mandela was released.
She claimed she was told this by a South African cast member in a play.
The trouble was this man had no recollection of ever having met her.

She can’t help herself can she?

Volver, people rationalise the conventional marriage and their reasons for it. They tell themselves their love is a semi-mystical state that will last for ever.

Callistemon, it's true that Shakespeare and others agreed with romantic love. I was making too much of periodising it to the Brontes and Jane Austen. However romantic love became much more acceptable to the upper classes and their labourers when there was a need to actively stop societal values collapsing due to new industrial practices.

ReadyMeals

It's strange that when all the TV commentators are talking about past experiences with lying in state and the public filing past, they all say it's not been seen since George V1. They seem to have forgotten that it happened similarly for the Queen Mother.

I know others answered this and added other funerals to the list.

The last State Funeral was the last King's. None of the others mentioned were. They were ceremonial funerals. So, in fact at least the commentators are correct. They are correct not only in fact. Unless you are one of those who attended King George's funeral you will never have seen anything on this scale. The State reserves these occasions for the Sovereign as Head of State.

(If someone has already corrected the assumptions made, I apologise).

Winston Churchill had a State Funeral too although he wasn't the monarch.

You are right - one of three British Prime Ministers and the most recent. Thank you for the correction. The Queen Mother, did not, as claimed by the poster, have one.

Churchill's, however, not on the scale of that for a Head of State so I think we can still allow the TV hosts their comment.

Yes, it was not on the same scale.

JenniferEccles

I think we have all learned by now not to believe a single word Meghan Markle says.
One of the most ludicrous though, and one which clearly illustrates the high regard she has of herself was when she recently claimed that people in South Africa were so overjoyed when she married Harry that they were rejoicing in the street in exactly the same way as they did when Nelson Mandela was released.
She claimed she was told this by a South African cast member in a play.
The trouble was this man had no recollection of ever having met her.

She can’t help herself can she?

But this thread is about Charles, it’s not another flipping H and M one.

Back to Charles.. he has a hard act to follow in most peoples opinion. No reason though to suppose he won’t manage !

Back to Charles.. he has a hard act to follow in most peoples opinion. No reason though to suppose he won’t manage !

He has had a very long apprenticeship

I can’t help wondering if Charles has his mother’s stamina. Yes he’s had a very long apprenticeship but I did hear that the Queen carried out up to 400 official functions per year.
Staggering isn’t it? Ok her workload was reduced over the last few years but nevertheless a workload of that size would challenge a younger person, let alone someone like Charles in his early 70s.

I suspect that Anne may be the inheritor of her parents’ longevity gene, rather than Charles - though he has demonstrated remarkable stamina over the last few days.

DaisyAnne

You are right - one of three British Prime Ministers and the most recent. Thank you for the correction. The Queen Mother, did not, as claimed by the poster, have one.

Churchill's, however, not on the scale of that for a Head of State so I think we can still allow the TV hosts their comment.

I’m confused now, Sky News did an article the other day about queues for previous state funerals, which was very interesting as I hadn’t appreciated how long the queues for them were - and they included theQueen Mother and Queen Mary in their list.
news.sky.com/story/lying-in-state-in-pictures-how-queues-for-the-queen-compare-to-previous-monarchs-and-prime-ministers-12698243

volver

It's got nothing to do with religion, neither of us in our marriage has a will and we have no joint accounts.

How dull life must be for people who get married while consumed by thoughts of money.

It negligent not to leave a will, a lasting power of attorney and clear instructions what your wishes are after death, particularly when one reaches a certain age.

I plan to die destitute and I don't expect anyone to take on the responsibility that lasting power of attorney requires. After I'm gone, I really don't care what happens to what's left.

Please don't think we are all alike.

You don’t have children volver. That changes things a lot.

You plan to die destitute and leave the expense and effort of dealing with your remains to others who may not even know you. Is that what you mean Volver?

Please don’t think we’re all alike.