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Truss going on tour with Charles

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Zonne Sat 10-Sept-22 21:30:05

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/10/king-liz-truss-tour-uk-share-grief-late-queens-death/

Is this appropriate?

I think it makes him look political. I can see some of goodwill people seem to have for him leaching away as a consequence.

But I dislike both the monarchy and Truss, so recognise I’m a tad biased.

MaizieD Mon 12-Sept-22 18:49:38

I am just pleased that there is someone with a measure of dignity and honour in Number 10.

Oh, is Larry the cat still in residence?

varian Mon 12-Sept-22 18:49:32

Yes Truss might be a marginal improvement on Johnson, but that's not saying much. Like him she seems to be in the grip of the ERG, and possibly corrupt. She seems to be more hardworking and possibly as a result more competent, but we have to wait to see whether that is good or bad.

albertina Mon 12-Sept-22 18:46:14

I am just pleased that there is someone with a measure of dignity and honour in Number 10. I am no Tory, but even I am relieved that there has been a change of resident there.
This country is in a mess and needs advice and support from anyone wise enough to help us out of it.

varian Mon 12-Sept-22 18:12:13

Truss tried to muscle in on today's proceedings in Edinburgh,

Doesn't she just love a photo opportunity?

She was an also-ran and for once upstaged by Nicola Surgeon who as First Minister of Scotland had every right to take a prominent role in the service at St Giles Cathedral.

The attention seeking Truss will get her opportunity in London.

MaizieD Mon 12-Sept-22 17:35:14

sandelf

This is not political - we have two major changes, it makes sense for them both to introduce themselves. And God knows we need some encouragement and morale boosting.

Why on earth should the King, who has lived among us for 70+ years ans whose activities have been subjected to decades of publicity, need to 'introduce himself'. We know who he is and a great deal of what he is like.

The PM is a political appointment, theoretically made by voting into power the party of which they are leader. The monarch is obliged, by our constitution, to appoint them. But the monarch himself must not be associated with any political party.

Besides which, the PM needs no 'introduction'. Anyone who wants to can look up her parliamentary record and she's just spent 6 weeks promoting her rather unpleasant political views in the tory leadership contest.

People do have some weird ideas...

sandelf Mon 12-Sept-22 17:10:18

This is not political - we have two major changes, it makes sense for them both to introduce themselves. And God knows we need some encouragement and morale boosting.

StoneofDestiny Mon 12-Sept-22 16:59:37

Wrong - it's aligning the monarchy to the Tory Party. Absolutely blatant.

Time for a Republic.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 12-Sept-22 16:48:11

Exactly

DaisyAnne Mon 12-Sept-22 16:46:48

Whitewavemark2

katy1950

I would rather have our system than that of America

So would I, but Truss is beginning to “politicise” the neutral civil service just as it is in America, as she has so far sacked at least one civil service head and replaced them with Tory cronies.

Truss has also been accused of politicising senior civil service roles after she sacked Tom Scholar, the top civil servant in the Treasury, on her first day in office. The former cabinet secretary Robin Butler, who served under Tony Blair, John Major and Margaret Thatcher, said politicians are “beginning to forget the constitution” and that “the civil service is Her Majesty’s civil service”.

He told the BBC removing Scholar as an economic crisis approaches would be destabilising, saying: “I think they are behaving improperly towards the civil service. It will weaken them but it will also corrupt our system because one of those great advantages of having an independent, loyal civil service will be compromised.”

(Source: New Statesman Morning Call email)

DaisyAnne Mon 12-Sept-22 16:37:24

Keffie12

Zonne

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/10/king-liz-truss-tour-uk-share-grief-late-queens-death/

Is this appropriate?

I think it makes him look political. I can see some of goodwill people seem to have for him leaching away as a consequence.

But I dislike both the monarchy and Truss, so recognise I’m a tad biased.

I've read it isn't true! That news of it being untrue came from no 10

I think the news that it was happening did too, Keffie. It certainly went in the Newspapers the government normally leaks to.

avitorl Mon 12-Sept-22 16:16:59

So sorry .I meant my response to be about Truss and not to posters on here.

avitorl Mon 12-Sept-22 16:14:36

WTF?

Allsorts Mon 12-Sept-22 15:16:13

What a misleading post. Don’t people check their facts before posting?
Those that want a republic, how about President Corbyn , Blair, Johnson or Truss. On the other hand maybe it’s better someone impartial or at least is not allowed to be biased in any way, who was actually groomed for the role might be preferable.

Casdon Mon 12-Sept-22 15:11:57

Whitewavemark2

katy1950

I would rather have our system than that of America

So would I, but Truss is beginning to “politicise” the neutral civil service just as it is in America, as she has so far sacked at least one civil service head and replaced them with Tory cronies.

I don’t know if it’s happened in Scotland and Northern Ireland as well, but she’s also written personally to all Welsh Civil servants seeking their loyalty. She doesn’t even employ them, and there’s quite a backlash against her for not understanding that. She’s heading for a major fall from grace very quickly I suspect.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 12-Sept-22 15:07:35

katy1950

I would rather have our system than that of America

So would I, but Truss is beginning to “politicise” the neutral civil service just as it is in America, as she has so far sacked at least one civil service head and replaced them with Tory cronies.

katy1950 Mon 12-Sept-22 15:01:13

I would rather have our system than that of America

Soniah Mon 12-Sept-22 15:00:36

Not happening, she's just attending the services of reflection

Nannashirlz Mon 12-Sept-22 14:33:15

I think she got more important things to sort at min than a cuppa and cake with a ride along on the number 7 with the king. She should be sorting out what help she going to give his subjects. lol

Theoddbird Mon 12-Sept-22 14:28:34

Totally agree GrannyGravy13....

Zonne Mon 12-Sept-22 14:27:32

Not any more, anyway.

MaizieD Mon 12-Sept-22 14:02:10

Your every third post reminder that:

IT'S NOT TRUE, FOLKS

Truss is merely going to the services. She is not touring with the royal party.

polly123 Mon 12-Sept-22 13:52:09

No, she should not be going anywhere, she should be applying herself to the current energy crisis etc. Also, I'm sure we don't want to see her weird curtsey again!

Annewilko Mon 12-Sept-22 13:50:02

Grany

Yes I agree not appropriate

I am biased too I want a republic

While we are being told by many people 'now is not the time' surely there is no better time to discuss monarchy and republicanism than with the passing of the longest reigning monarch in British history and in a period of great uncertainty for many people in Britain? Yet this is the one discussion that you will not see or hear in the British media, or in public discussion by politicians, or public debate. Instead, we are treated with the absolute assumption that all of us want the monarchy to continue and that there are absolutely no issues with the hereditary principle, which denies the democratic principle.

#NotMyKing

www.counterfire.org/articles/opinion/23454-the-myths-of-monarchy-and-the-need-for-a-republic

I totally agree with all you say.
Of course this will be used by the establishment to promote the status quo

Treetops05 Mon 12-Sept-22 13:42:19

Wrong, and someone from the Palace should step in and prevent it. Liz Truss trying to 'big up' her totally unimportant role in this angry

pinkpeony Mon 12-Sept-22 13:42:14

biglouis Truss should be busy organizing the fuel crisis problem and not getting involved in a side show. Ok there are some ceremonial bits she had to be involved in but her job is to govern the country and not to junket around.

Totally agree. A very bad idea, someone should tell him not to do it!