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What's the point of a Prince of Wales?

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volver Sun 11-Sept-22 09:42:53

I believe the Prince of Wales is basically the top bod in the hierarchy in Wales and has been an Englishman since the 14th Century. I understand it is an expression of the rule of the English over the Welsh.

I have googled the role of the Prince and Princess of Wales and it appears to be to visit as many places in the country as possible and learn to speak Welsh. Personally I find the conferring of titles such as this on Royals a patronising anachronism, having once had to explain to a French person that the Duke of Edinburgh didn't really run Edinburgh.

What do Welsh people think about the whole thing?

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 11-Sept-22 16:31:44

Without reading the whole thread again - describing it as ‘a nonsense’ IIRC, mention of the petition to stop it …?

Casdon Sun 11-Sept-22 16:36:50

In any case, Prince William speaks Welsh already, he learned as a child. Apart from republicans, from what I’ve seen, Welsh people are happy to have him as Prince of Wales and support the investiture. He has lived in Wales, visited frequently, and is generally more popular here than his father, I think people see him favourably. The current angst here is more about the UK Government than it is about the Royal Family.

volver Sun 11-Sept-22 16:37:07

That's not whingeing. That's answering the question about what people think of it and adding how they are acting on their feelings about it. That's allowed, sorry to disappoint you. Do you think that anybody who expresses a negative view about a situation is whingeing?

Whingeing would be: "Oh I don't want this to happen, poor me, here we go again. I don't like William, he doesn't deserve this job, yada yada...)

Making comments which you do not agree with is just something you are going to have to live with. It is a democracy, remember.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 11-Sept-22 16:38:44

Whatever, volver. Whatever.

Lexisgranny Sun 11-Sept-22 16:45:53

Anniebach. Llandovery to Cardiff = 55.3 miles, Llandovery to Holyhead = 154.3 miles%.

nadateturbe Sun 11-Sept-22 16:45:55

Germanshepherdsmum

Without reading the whole thread again - describing it as ‘a nonsense’ IIRC, mention of the petition to stop it …?

IIRC?

volver Sun 11-Sept-22 16:48:57

Just to close this bit of the conversation...

I won't be complaining if Edward gets Duke of Edinburgh any more than I did when he got Earl of Forfar. Giving a Royal a made up title to make them feel important is just one of the little games the Royals like to indulge in.

Giving them a historically-significant title that implies they rule over a particular country in the Union, that's something else. I would however, complain, if somebody decides we need a new Duke of Cumberland.

Grany Sun 11-Sept-22 17:04:41

We will now begin to pay William more than £20m a year.
Duchy of Cornwall worth 1billion passes to William

Chestnut Sun 11-Sept-22 17:13:25

My mother was 100% Welsh DNA and they all spoke it round the table in North Wales. She was very happy and proud when Charles was made Prince of Wales, she even bought the LP of the soundtrack (no video recorders then).

I think it is an honour for the PoW to have the title and an honour for Wales to have him, it works both ways. Today it means each can promote and compliment the other through charities, language and culture. As with anything royal there will be people who approve and people who disapprove!

AGAA4 Sun 11-Sept-22 17:24:49

I don't really like titles at all but as they mean little these days then William being Prince of Wales isn't going to affect me at all.

nadateturbe Sun 11-Sept-22 17:27:56

Grany

We will now begin to pay William more than £20m a year.
Duchy of Cornwall worth 1billion passes to William

There's none so blind.....

tickingbird Sun 11-Sept-22 18:05:01

I think William is now also Lord of the Isles. Dearie me.

How delightful. Good for William. Love it grin

Prentice Sun 11-Sept-22 18:33:40

Lexisgranny

I have just asked my husband what he thinks about the appointment and he replied that as long as they both visit all parts of Wales, and are visible in the Principality, he is more than happy about it.

a good view to take, I think.

I do not remember any problems arising when Prince Charles became the Prince of Wales, it is seen as an honour surely.
Wales is a part of the UK, as is Scotland and NI.Moreover Wales has historically been entwined with England for much longer than the other two.
I believe that William and Catherine will be very welcome there, they do seem to be poplar with everyone.

NotSpaghetti Sun 11-Sept-22 18:35:53

Chestnut - my father was just the same. He had moved to England before I was born.
He regretted not speaking Welsh to me but he spoke Welsh to everyone who could speak it.
He sang to me in Welsh.

He was very proud when Charles was made Prince of Wales.

Soroptimum Sun 11-Sept-22 18:49:53

I am Welsh. I got into trouble when I took the day off school in 1969 to watch Charles’s investiture. I think it’s fantastic that we have a new Prince.
As an aside, I’ve had enough of Scotland and how much the Queen loved Balmoral.

Barmeyoldbat Sun 11-Sept-22 19:00:55

Being Welsh I hate it

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 11-Sept-22 19:12:13

Why do you hate it? My daughter in law is Welsh and doesn't 'hate it'.

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Sept-22 19:46:40

Barmeyoldbat

Being Welsh I hate it

Do you live in Wales Barmeyoldbat?

Just curious

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Sept-22 19:51:03

tickingbird

^I think William is now also Lord of the Isles. Dearie me.^

How delightful. Good for William. Love it grin

I think William is now also Lord of the Isles. Dearie me

When I see this post all I seem to do is burst into song! Fingers in ears everyone ?

Speed, bonnie boat, like a bird on the wing,
Onward! the sailors cry;
Carry the lad that's born to be king
Over the sea to Skye.

Loud the winds howl, loud the waves roar,
Thunderclaps rend the air;
Baffled, our foes stand by the shore,
Follow they will not dare.

Sung with great gusto at my English primary school.

volver Sun 11-Sept-22 19:57:44

Soroptimum

I am Welsh. I got into trouble when I took the day off school in 1969 to watch Charles’s investiture. I think it’s fantastic that we have a new Prince.
As an aside, I’ve had enough of Scotland and how much the Queen loved Balmoral.

That's understandable.

I'm a bit fed up of hearing about her "beloved Balmoral" as well. And tonight I learnt from Countryfile that she was a champion of the rights of capercaillies. Who knew.

volver Sun 11-Sept-22 20:00:35

Callistemon21

tickingbird

I think William is now also Lord of the Isles. Dearie me.

How delightful. Good for William. Love it grin

I think William is now also Lord of the Isles. Dearie me

When I see this post all I seem to do is burst into song! Fingers in ears everyone ?

Speed, bonnie boat, like a bird on the wing,
Onward! the sailors cry;
Carry the lad that's born to be king
Over the sea to Skye.

Loud the winds howl, loud the waves roar,
Thunderclaps rend the air;
Baffled, our foes stand by the shore,
Follow they will not dare.

Sung with great gusto at my English primary school.

Somerled is birlinn in his grave.

Joke for the Scottish grans wink

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Sept-22 20:03:50

I know, my voice is terrible ?

volver Sun 11-Sept-22 20:05:29

Nothing to do with your voice, Call wink

Grayling1 Sun 11-Sept-22 20:07:54

Volvergrin gringrin

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Sept-22 20:18:34

You haven't heard it volver

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