First arrests under the New Police Act preventing freedom of speech

I'm all for free speech, but perhaps it would be better if people showed a bit of respect, and delayed their rants until after the funeral.
Whether you're a royalist or not, a small show of respect for a woman who has served ALL of us for over seventy years would be appropriate.
As for the 'Jedward' idiots, they need to shut up!

You just know that when a post starts with "I'm all for free speech but..." that its not going to go they way you'd like it to.

Shouting half a dozen words is not a rant. Standing in a public street with a blank piece of paper is not a rant.

Calling some Irish lads "idiots who should shut up" because you don't agree with what they say? I think that counts as a rant.

The man who shouted at Prince Andrew during the walk in Edinburgh was dragged back violently by the collar, and then dragged out of sight again by people in the crowd. He ended up on the floor, and was quickly taken away by police - they said it was for his safety. Surely, it's a matter of time and place, and it is not necessary to scream insults, and your views, at a funeral procession. Would anyone here like that to happen to their family?

You simply can’t have it both ways.

It wasn't a funeral procession. He's been arrested and charged while the two men who physically attacked him haven't.

As far as I know none of my close relatives have got themselves involved with trafficked young women and then paid them off, expecting to carry on as if nothing had happened, so I can't answer your last question.

Whitewavemark2

At least 2 people have been arrested for carrying signs that protest against a monarchy.

Whatever you think about the crassness of this behaviour, we should all be very, very worried about this curtailment of freedom of speech - a necessary pillar to a healthy democracy.

I agree. Freedom of speech is a crucial freedom.

Horrified by this blatant misuse of power by an increasingly ineffective and distrusted police force. We can see this happening right now in Russia! Do we want this for our historically freedom loving country? Our rights and civil liberties are being eroded and have been for some time. Seeing us scared to death and locked down so unprotestingly for Covid, with measures taken which many (including myself) found far too heavy handed has emboldened the government in thinking we can be herded like sheep. We, the people, should stop being so compliant, make more of a noise and demonstrate exactly from which source they get their power

Agree too, even if I disagree.

There's time and place, and insulting people mourning their queen/ mother at the funeral procession etc is not the time.

volver I'm not sure why you appear on so many threads being aggressive. You also demonstrate pedantic behaviour to a degree that is beginning to make you look silly.

The place they chose to protest was so wrong. The Queen's cottage was definitely the wrong place.

Rosina

volver I'm not sure why you appear on so many threads being aggressive. You also demonstrate pedantic behaviour to a degree that is beginning to make you look silly.

I don't care ?

Now please stop trying to make me feel unwanted.

(BTW, I was very nice on the Gyles Brandreth thread)

I think a man was arrested for heckling Prince Andrew. Freedom of Speech is vital, but there is a time and a place, but this was neither.

With free speech comes responsibility, it does not give one the right to insult or offend others.

Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.

@Volver,
You have a very strange idea of what constitutes a rant!
Why do you object to my calling 'Jedward' idiots? They're thick, we all know that!
I'm confused as to why they think they should be showing banners reading 'Not My King'. Of course he's not their King, nor ever will he be, they're from Eire, they don't have a King!
I would be interested to know whether you have yet lost your Mother? Would you have liked the abuse being shown by some people to have been directed at you and your family whilst you were mourning her loss?
No, I didn't think so!

How dare you ask whether I have lost my mother.

Other people on this site know my situation so I will allow them to judge your nasty and ill-timed comments.

I would hope you'd be ashamed of yourself, but I doubt it.

Jedward live in a republic so why are they bothered about the monarchy in the first place, it doesn't really affect them. Another chance of trying to get themselves noticed yet again. Free speech, hunger for fame more like it, but whatever it was what a time to do it when the Queen dies. Real bad timing lads.

@Volver,
I made no nasty or ill timed comments to you, I simply asked a question!

If you have lost your mother, you have my sympathy.

However, maybe you could offer the same courtesy to the Queen's family.

I'm going out to get on with my life now, I really cannot be bothered with your childish, pedantic and rude attitude!

I'd drop it now Juggernaut.

If you are in a hole stop digging.

I can detect an aroma of MaryEliza on this thread...anyone remember her?

Whilst freedom is something I bang on about all the time, there can be no freedom at all to hurl abuse in public at a man who is walking behind his dead mothers coffin. There never has been freedom to do this. In the past he would have been immediately killed and quite right too. Four hundred years ago he would have had a widow's scold put on him. Now he gets knocked to the ground by a right minded person. If he gets charged with a breach of the peace then quite right too. Scum of the earth protesting a dead woman. They get no protections from me for that.

In the past he would have been immediately killed and quite right too.

Christ on a bike.

Rosina

I can detect an aroma of MaryEliza on this thread...anyone remember her?

No I don’t Rosina.
Please enlighten me ?
Who was she ?

GrannyGravy13

With free speech comes responsibility, it does not give one the right to insult or offend others.

Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.

Absolutely, but because you can and do you should not expect to get arrested in a free democratic society,

volver

^In the past he would have been immediately killed and quite right too.^

Christ on a bike.

So would you for your blasphemous mouth. And quite right too.