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Camilla to be crowned.

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Esspee Wed 12-Oct-22 08:03:12

I was prepared to ignore the coronation, but for Charles to insist that his now wife be crowned is beyond the pale in my opinion.
I realise there are a huge number of royalists on Gransnet but do any of you agree with me that she should not be crowned?

silverlining48 Mon 17-Oct-22 11:35:57

Even I am commenting and hardly interested at all....confused actually I really dislike these pop up ads covering the posts. GN, please NO

Caleo Mon 17-Oct-22 11:46:24

Long live the Windsor circus! Bravo processions with beautiful horses!

MissAdventure Mon 17-Oct-22 12:56:07

I saw someone mention greys.

Were they meaning the horses will be grey (assuming they weren't referring to to Charles and Camilla)

Anniebach Mon 17-Oct-22 13:10:49

Windsor Greys are horses ?

LadyHonoriaDedlock Mon 17-Oct-22 14:59:19

maddyone

How on earth can anyone possibly know what happened that night? It all seems like tittle tattle and gossip to me.

Quite probably, and after 41 years memories can be unreliable, but it was being put about in the papers.

Grany Mon 17-Oct-22 16:49:57

henetha

No thank you. Long live the King. smile

The Royals must be counting on people like you and the royal propaganda to keep them going. Plus the millions on unnecessary coronation.

The King is only there to serve the monarchy and polititions. The people and our unwritten constitution don't matter to him king will only do as PM aks, so with all the law breaking, contracts to their mates costing billions from Tory government the monarch didn't question step in.

But oddly enough the monarch does vet laws that affect his interests and lobby ministers you would be right in saying this is corruption, In public office for private gain.

A Elected Head of State would act in the interests of the country if our constitution laws have been broken.

silverlining48 Mon 17-Oct-22 17:08:54

We don’t know stuff because our press don’t report royal tittle tattle. Never really have.
It’s the European papers who get and print Royal news, gossip and scandal and our Europeans cousins who tell us what’s going on.

Calendargirl Mon 17-Oct-22 17:58:08

LadyHonoriaDedlock

maddyone

How on earth can anyone possibly know what happened that night? It all seems like tittle tattle and gossip to me.

Quite probably, and after 41 years memories can be unreliable, but it was being put about in the papers.

I suppose ‘Recollections may vary’ also.

Caleo Mon 17-Oct-22 19:05:17

Miss Adventure noted someone referred to Windsor greys. Grey horses over about eight years old are actually white as are the famous Windsor greys. Elderly Windsors are as well trained as these experienced horses, which is an advantage over some silly politicians.

MissAdventure Mon 17-Oct-22 19:09:35

Ah, thank you. smile

Do they belong to the king, now?

Were they specifically the queen's animals?

henetha Mon 17-Oct-22 23:38:56

Me and millions of others still want the monarchy, Grany. But we are all entitled to our opinion. We'll just have to agree to differ.

Caleo Tue 18-Oct-22 11:47:16

I gather from Google that the Queen . not the Crown, personally owned the Windsor greys. I hope to goodness King Charles will carry on the horse tradition as his mother did! Camilla is keen horsewoman I gather. Queen Elizabeth loved all sorts of horses from ponies to the English thoroughbred and you knew that from the way she looked at them.

MissAdventure Tue 18-Oct-22 11:50:58

smile
Perhaps Camilla will carry on the tradition?

Jaberwok Tue 18-Oct-22 13:05:00

An elected HoS act in the interests of the country? Well, maybe, maybe not. This person is bound to be an ex politician and as such have a political agenda as they see it. Would this person take over the role that the RF now fill, if not, what on earth would they do on a day to day basis that the P.M doesn't already do ? No, I and many like me including my DGC will stick with the old tried and tested RF. For a start we love the pageantry and are looking forward to the Coronation, and an excuse for party time.

Joy241 Tue 18-Oct-22 16:19:48

I am ready to be corrected, but I believe the wives of kings are crowned Queens Consort, not reigning queens. If Charles were to predecease Camilla, she would not take over his job as sovereign. except in the unlikely event of both Charles and William dying while George still a minor. She could be asked to be Regent but that is very different and, again, unlikely.

Surely Charles is supporting Camilla's crowning as an act of respect and love? After all, they have been married seventeen years now and she seems to be a great support to him.

I can see little difference between her being crowned and any other woman being given her husband's name and title on marriage. (I do know that is not always the case now.)

Ladyleftfieldlover Tue 18-Oct-22 16:34:29

Queen Alexandra, Queen Mary and the Queen Mother aka Queen Elizabeth, were all Queen(s) Consorts(s). I assume at some point Camilla will be known as Queen Camilla. Anything else is a bit of a mouthful. Queen Adelaide (married to William 4) was a Queen Consort too - so was George 2’s wife Queen Caroline. There have been loads of them.

Jaberwok Tue 18-Oct-22 17:53:07

George 111rd, Queen Charlotte, all of them, (apart from William 111 and Mary,) right back to Matilda of Flanders wife of William the Conqueror. Like all these 'Queens', Camilla could never be Queen in her own right, any more than the late Queen mother was, or Queen Mary before her. If Charles and William were deceased before George is 18, there would be a Regent not Camilla, but, at the moment probably Prince Harry as he is next in line after George,Charlotte and Louis. However the rumour is, that scenario could well be altered by the King to either Princess Anne or Prince Edward.

Calendargirl Wed 19-Oct-22 07:24:28

I’m sure the fact that Harry is no longer a working royal and lives in the USA has been taken into account regarding the unlikely event of a regent being required in the future.

Jaberwok Wed 19-Oct-22 09:42:51

Well you should never leave anything to chance. No doubt the Palace has thought about that, and will, it's to be hoped, act appropriately.

Grany Wed 19-Oct-22 10:46:51

Jaberwok

An elected HoS act in the interests of the country? Well, maybe, maybe not. This person is bound to be an ex politician and as such have a political agenda as they see it. Would this person take over the role that the RF now fill, if not, what on earth would they do on a day to day basis that the P.M doesn't already do ? No, I and many like me including my DGC will stick with the old tried and tested RF. For a start we love the pageantry and are looking forward to the Coronation, and an excuse for party time.

Yes a Head of State would act in the interests of the country by defending our constitution from the law breaking and wrong doing of the Tory or any government his number one priority. This person man or woman would not necessarily be a politition couk not have a political agenda as the Head of States powers would be limited. (The Royals behind the scenes only recently discovered get involved in politics for their own interests and agenda) He/she would be a parliamentary Head of State. The Head of State would visit other Heads of State and receive Heads of State he/she would speak to the nation at important times. Not sure what role royal family have turning up at outings paid for by local councils? A PM runs the government with the help of parliament will continue. There can be pageantry other republics do them too.

Mollygo Wed 19-Oct-22 10:58:15

Love your vision of what a UK head of state would do.
1. So how are we going to elect one?
2. Who will pay for the election?
3. Will the post be properly funded so that it’s not just the better off who stand a chance of the post?
4. Who will pay for that or how do you propose we are going to fund it?
5. Is the HoS going to be non-political?
6. How would you ensure that?
7. Can you explain the pageantry you propose we should have?
8. Pageantry about what and what pageantry do other countries do? Examples please.
9. Arranged by whom?
10. Paid for by whom?
That’ll do to be going in with. I’ve number the questions to make it easier.
Look forward to your numbered responses.

volver Wed 19-Oct-22 11:00:36

I'm going to start a thread about republicanism. It's not fair to deflect from people who want to talk about which fancy hat Camilla will get.

jenpax Wed 19-Oct-22 11:04:29

While not a Royalist by any means! I abhor infidelity and therefore am no fan of Camilla or Charles! I also think Diana was treated disgracefully and do not support the idea of Camilla as Queen for those reasons. However on a wider level there are really many more things for me to get agitated about including the current cost of living crisis and The current mismanagement of the country!

Jaberwok Wed 19-Oct-22 11:50:26

You've obviously been very lucky in your private life, as I have, but I know plenty of people who haven't, and for that reason have sought affection, harmony and yes love in a new relationship including my own children, who are now both happy in new relationships. I certainly don't approve of infidelity for its own sake, but in certain circumstances it is perfectly understandable and actually desirable, unless you are advocating staying, as people, particularly woman were once forced to do, in a relationship that is deeply unhappy, perhaps violent, soul destroying and worse, just for the sake of 'doing the right thing'. Diana committed infidelity way before Charles went back to Camilla. She had multiple affairs,breaking up at least two marriages, Charles went back to the one woman he truly loved and has been married to for 17 years without a breath of scandal. They deeply love each other, who on earth could deny them that.

Anniebach Wed 19-Oct-22 12:30:58

Diana behaved disgracefully but that’s acceptable?

Camilla’s husband had numerous affairs so she was treated disgracefully