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Camilla to be crowned.

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Esspee Wed 12-Oct-22 08:03:12

I was prepared to ignore the coronation, but for Charles to insist that his now wife be crowned is beyond the pale in my opinion.
I realise there are a huge number of royalists on Gransnet but do any of you agree with me that she should not be crowned?

Lovetopaint037 Wed 12-Oct-22 10:31:08

At one time I would have been horrified but not now. She has earned a change of heart. Also this country has so many problems and this decision is such a small matter in the grand scheme of things. Let’s have some calm and let them all get on with it. It may even earn the country some money and grab back a little of our lost prestige.

silverlining48 Wed 12-Oct-22 10:35:08

Not particularly fussed but think Camilla might be respected more if she refused to be crowned, if only out of consideration for William and Harry who will still have feelings about what happened to Diana their mother.
This should have been Diana, not their father’s lover, however happy she may have made Charles. Whatever positive face they put on it, it can’t be easy for them.

Blossoming Wed 12-Oct-22 10:39:23

Of course Camilla will be crowned. She’s married to the King, them’s the rules.

I’m not a monarchist.

Yammy Wed 12-Oct-22 10:41:11

RichmondPark1

25 years is a helluva long time to bear a grudge about a person you don't know from Adam, based on information provided third hand by the notoriously untrustworthy tabloid press.

Camilla must REALLY love Charles to have put up with everything she's tolerated over the years. Now she has to take this job on at a time in her life when most of us can relax. If I were her I'd wish I'd stayed happily single in my country house in Wiltshire and could spend my days wafting about with a terrier and a trug full of bulbs.

You say we can't make judgments about people we don't know, yet state Camilla must really love Charles .Do you know her or is that your supposition? You're just doing what everyone else does.

pascal30 Wed 12-Oct-22 10:45:17

GrannyGravy13

I like our Queen Consort Camilla.

She stays quietly in the background supporting the King and carrying out many many visits to the charities she has been patron of for years, some before she married the present King. She doesn’t court publicity.

I have absolutely no problem with her being crowned as such.

completely agree

RichmondPark1 Wed 12-Oct-22 10:46:39

I didn't say you can't make judgments about people we don't know. I was talking about timescale.

Yep, it's my supposition.

I am allowed to do what everyone else does.

Grany Wed 12-Oct-22 10:47:22

Why have a coronation very costly millions, other European monarchies don't ?

Cost of living crises

Government and monarchy waiting to see publics reaction to this spending.

Kalu Wed 12-Oct-22 10:52:51

growstuff, please don’t resort to insulting innuendos by claiming those who, don't move on are puerile. Let’s keep the discussion civilised.

Blondiescot Wed 12-Oct-22 11:15:27

I'm very far from being a royalist, but I can't see any reason why she shouldn't be crowned. She is clearly a huge support to Charles, works hard as patron of a number of charities which are close to her heart and doesn't actively seek out the limelight. I suspect those who remain rabidly against her are the same ones who think Diana was some kind of saint or angel, which was far from the truth.

HousePlantQueen Wed 12-Oct-22 11:17:15

I am hoping to be able to book a holiday overseas that weekend. Get away from the inane fawning reporting from "Royal experts". It will have little impact on my life, good luck to them both, 10 years older than me and having to take on all these duties. I too am more of the pottering with a spaniel and trug full of bulbs type of person.

MaizieD Wed 12-Oct-22 11:51:55

eazybee

^Historically a man marrying a woman who was Queen in her own right became the King (and tended to take over from his wife)^
Not in this country.
The only royal spouse to be accorded the title of King was William 111, husband of Mary Stuart, at the invitation of Parliament and as a descendant of Charles1 ; Philip of Spain, husband of Mary Tudor was King of Spain, not of England, and the husbands of Matilda, Anne, Victoria and Elizabeth were Dukes and/or Princes in their own right but never Kings.

Exactly, eazybee.

Though I believe that Victoria wanted Albert to be 'King' and was a bit miffed when it wasn't allowed ?

I really couldn't care less what Camilla is called and the fact that she will be crowned doesn't bother me at all. I think raking over a 25 year old scandal that has no bearing at all on the present day, or the work she will continue to do, is a bit sad...

Quokka Wed 12-Oct-22 12:32:59

It’s a shame that Charles was encouraged to marry Diana so the country could have heirs, when he and Camilla had been an item for so long. But then had he been allowed to marry Camilla in the first place (and as likely no children from that marriage) then Andrew would have been Heir Apparent.

Perish the thought!

What’s done is done. Camilla has stuck by him and earned the respect of his late mother, his children and many others by her quiet dignity. .

VenusDeVillendorf Wed 12-Oct-22 13:11:13

You know if you think about it, Charles married the love of his life. And Diana, good bless her was the third wheel.

Charles loved Camilla from the start. He had to marry Diana to have an heir. Diana knew this and her family encouraged it as it lifted the Spencer family.
I’d Diana had been clever at all and had read anything other than Mills and Boon, she would have understood the assignment.

Charles is with the love of his life, married and happy. Camilla helps Charles and will make the job he’s assigned to do easier, so yes she should be Queen.

William is well over his mother’s divorce, and death, as he’s a contemplative and clever man. He’s put in the work to move on, and he’s invested his time in selecting a clever supportive partner in life. She gets the assignment too.

Harry is stupid like his mother - Diana even said as much- and has to make money being a victim of circumstance, rehashing his childhood.
He has to complain about everything to earn his living, and keep his wife in luxury.
Neither of them understand the assignment. They are in a hell of their own making.

No doubt we’ll all be hearing how his Diamond slippers are too tight in his ghost written book: His Truth. Yawnsville.

So yes, Queen Camilla should be crowned imo.

maddyone Wed 12-Oct-22 13:22:14

Blossoming

Of course Camilla will be crowned. She’s married to the King, them’s the rules.

I’m not a monarchist.

Yep!

Shinamae Wed 12-Oct-22 13:35:22

rosie1959

Shinamae

According to a royal commentator on Jeremy Vine this morning ,she doesn’t understand why the word consort is being used and that Camilla will be the “Queen”

Camilla to my knowledge will be Queen Consort she can’t be Queen she is not a reigning monarch

Well the royal correspondent was at pains to point out that she would be Queen and not Queen consort, whether she is right or wrong I have no idea..?‍♀️

Juicywords Wed 12-Oct-22 13:45:28

Why, if the Duke of Edinburgh was not crowned at the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II, should Camilla have a crown now?

merlotgran Wed 12-Oct-22 13:48:33

This should have been Diana, not their father’s lover,

Bit difficult when you’re dead!.

Grany Wed 12-Oct-22 14:01:58

Twitter

Charles sees no problem with accepting bags of cash from Qatari politicians with questionable human rights records. If he were standing for election as head of state he would lose, and lose badly.
#NotMyKing #AbolishTheMonarchy

karmalady Wed 12-Oct-22 14:04:31

long live the queen, Camilla has earned the crown. Stood by Charles and been his support through thick and thin

Jaberwok Wed 12-Oct-22 14:35:44

easybee you are quite right, the spouse of a King is a Queen, as in spouses from the Conquerer onwards. The only exception were William 111rd and Mary11nd. This arrangement was agreed for exceptional ccircumstances, As William was Stadholder in his own country, he wasn't prepared to be subordinate to his wife when she became Queen in her own right. So they were allowed to rule jointly or individually for their lifetime. This has never happened before or since. So Prince Philip would never have been crowned King, anymore than Princes Albert and George,Lord Darnley, Guilford Dudley, Phillip of Spain or Geoffrey Plantagenet.

Cabbie21 Wed 12-Oct-22 14:38:29

Lovetopaint037

At one time I would have been horrified but not now. She has earned a change of heart. Also this country has so many problems and this decision is such a small matter in the grand scheme of things. Let’s have some calm and let them all get on with it. It may even earn the country some money and grab back a little of our lost prestige.

This.

I gather it is to be on a much smaller scale than the last one, more fitting with the current times,

Norah Wed 12-Oct-22 14:52:21

Camilla is the King's wife, of course she'll be crowned.

I can't imagine why not. A matter, I think, of what the Queen wanted and Charles wants - they get (didn't a prince say similar of his wife).

I doubt his children care, they've their own wives to placate.

growstuff Wed 12-Oct-22 15:13:21

Kalu

*growstuff*, please don’t resort to insulting innuendos by claiming those who, don't move on are puerile. Let’s keep the discussion civilised.

grin

Are you sure you're actually reading my posts? confused

Blinko Wed 12-Oct-22 15:55:42

Why are some people still going on about Diana? They didn't make each other happy, she wasn't the one for him nor he for her. Get over it!

Camilla should be crowned and known as Queen. Which is what will happen.

Daddima Wed 12-Oct-22 16:19:38

I wonder if the naysayers would ignore Diana’s ‘ indiscretions’ if they had patched things up and she were still around to be crowned, or would she be judged and found wanting?